Intel wants to be a foundry\u2014again. Will this time be different?
Oct 20, 2021 Last reply: 4 years ago 49 Replies
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Rick C
So I've been doing it wrong for the last 10 years or so? Dang! I hate when I get it wrong!!!
That makes perfect sense to me. Kinda like Ed Lee being very consistently confused about what the rest of the world wants in EVs rather than people expecting what he expects.
That's funny, I put two of them in my "personal belongings" bag to carry on the airplane for free along with their power packs, two mice, assorted cables, a large expandable folder of paper documents, various sundry items I've forgotten are in the bag and a light lunch. But I guess if there's not room for a heavy lunch with iced beverages you consider that "not even practical".
The browser in the Tesla is not very good. Crashes much more often than the car.
The ARM is used for low end laptops which are good for low end applications. I looked in several stores for a new laptop last week and couldn't find anything with more than 8 GB other than at Costco. I've used machines with tiny displays and tiny memory and I don't like squinting or waiting. So I bought a decent machine instead.
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Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Sun, 24 Oct 2021 08:12:26 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Rick C snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:
Not a question of right or wrong but what works for you. What do I use a laptop for? Coding, read email, web browsing, news For none of those I need 17 inch. Code for platfoms tha tmay use bigger screens like for example raspberries I write on that so I can test.
The whole EV hype will get stuck on lack of power infrastructure and lack of redundancy.
Yea, sometimes I take a train (being green you know) and a small notebook is nice to check things like email, I do not like rubbing touch screens on phones although I just did that again...
But it has to do with viewing angle, will try to explain: ...................... equivalent to super size screen at 3 to 4 meters in a room / / / / /| / | you | l laptop \ | 43 cm \| 30cm \ ? \
My Samsung laptop has Mem: 6019076k total, 1177296k used, 4841780k free, 63900k buffers Swap: 10485756k total, 0k used, 10485756k free, 578648k cached Also some solid state memory that I do not use, but the original windows was on it, replaced it with Linux.
4GB, 8 GB is really enough Even decoded DVB-S2 TV with it from satellite with leandvb, although that was pushing it:
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needed a bigger screen.... ARM is fast...
If all else fails I have a laser projector too (not very good), but very small :-) Anyways if it makes you happy OK.
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Rick C
Wow! You literally understand nothing about EV charging. I know it has all been posted here 100 times at least, so if you missed the facts, you must have been working pretty hard.
ASCII art fails in Google Groups, but I know what you are talking about. That's why I like my 17 inch screen. It's "larger" than a 60 inch set on the wall. Actually, the room I'm in right now is only 9 foot (2.7m), so a 60 inch display might just be bigger by a small amount but might not fit on the space left next to the door. But one of my laptop screens has more than 1920 resolution, so it would need to be a 60 inch, 4K display to be any improvement at all. I'm good with the 17 inch home theater (with the ear buds or headset).
I guess the OS is fast, but it can be very slow when running apps. Can you bench mark an LTspice simulation and I'll compare it to my machines? Do you think it will be 10 to 1 or 100 to 1 in speed?
Indeed, different strokes for different folks. Your needs are for much less of a machine, so the ARM works for you.
I've been threatening to switch from Windows to Linux for years, but everytime I start to make inroads, something happens that makes me rethink the idea. One of the earlier investigations was cut short when I was pointing out the relative difference in support considering all the various info on the web, in particular that individuals can be pretty hard core expecting you to know all manner of things before they will assist. Someone jumped in to say that's no longer true, the Linux zealots were a thing of the past and a zealot jumped in to say something like if you weren't going to memorize man, you didn't deserve to use Linux. lol!
Now I'm pretty durn happy with Windows. It really does seem to get better with each new release. You just need to learn what "features" to turn off like UAP under Vista. Once I turned that off Vista worked fine. There were some things to disable with Win8 and it was fine. But Win10 doesn't have much of that unless you consider McAfee to be an undesirable Windows feature rather than the manufacturer installed virus it really is.
Maybe I'll put Linux on that 12 inch netbook. I can't recall if it has 2 GB or 4 GB. It has a "special" edition of Win7, would that run in 2 GB??? I think I had 3 or 4 GB for Vista. The computer had 4 GB installed, but some part of it was reserved and could not be addressed because of some aspect of the addressing, 32 bit issues I think.
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Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Sun, 24 Oct 2021 09:49:27 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Rick C snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:
mm, maybe YOU should read the news.
Have not used that in years I think, get a good news reader, I wrote one an been using it since 1999 or:
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Yes, earbuds here 2, just got new ear cushions for my Sennheiser headphones,
Have not used LT spice in years, I am neural net, know answer :-) But when you get that windows on arm PC later you could check Why is there no raspberry version of LTspice?
Some truth in that, I already had a little Unix experience in the late seventies. It made me buy a book about Unix. When I got across a Linux CD in 1998 it was just: make a floppy and boot in Linux. Took that book and off I went Free compiler (gcc) what more do you want. Because I was reading Usenet back then with windows 3.1 and trumpet winsock I think it was and Free Agent reader, I wanted something similar for Linux, so I wrote it.. It was called 'Secret Agent' but then somebody suggested 'NewsFleX' and that is still the name. I wrote lots of basic stuff that I needed,.. One plus is that I have a searchable database of all postings back to 2000 or so, and a searchable email database of all email back to 1998. Lots has changed in Linux and much has been screwed up IMNSHO for example dbus .. But if you can code in C and have the time, then the sky is the limit with that OS. But even for the clueless if you install Debian then you get lots of good stuff running out of the box.
Linux is pretty safe, no successful attack in all these years, not even when I ran the server at home Lots of attacks on that, but Linux has good firewall (iptables) where you can block things you want.
My oldest raspi has 400 MB memory, it runs a server.. plus a hat with compass + air pressure + accelerometer and also GPS at the same time... few more things RTL_SDR radio and radiation monitor and .. root@raspi73:~# uname -a Linux raspi73 3.6.11+ #371 PREEMPT Thu Feb 7 16:31:35 GMT 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux
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It is what you make of it.
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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno
Jan Panteltje snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com wrote in news:sl40np$uqh$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me:
If you have never experienced a 4K desktop display you have no bussiness expounding on the usefulness of a high resolution monitor.
You are decidedly not a luddite, but you do seem to lag in the uptake of modern technology.
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Rick C
You have no idea what you are talking about and likely are listening to people (including news programs) that have no idea what they are talking about.
It has been discussed here many times that there is need for zero expansion of the power grid, either generation or transmission to support EV charging for everyone in the US (I can't comment on third world countries like the UK). What is required is a means of organizing/coordinating charging so it mostly happens at off peak times, which is not at all hard since most people will want to charge when they are not driving the cars, lol. That happens to be largely at work during midday and at home in the evenings/night. At work EVs can absorb the huge midday excess of solar generation (local or concentrated). At home EVs can absorb the fallow capacity sized to drive the afternoon and morning usage peaks.
If managed properly the vast majority of EV charging will be a benefit to the leveling of electrical demand and not any sort of a burden.
Instead of making vague allusions to something you have heard or read, why not discuss verifiable facts?
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Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Sun, 24 Oct 2021 20:09:39 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Rick C snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:
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Well UK even has a national health system, as we do.. So.. and then when we think of national debt...
You are way to optimistic as to solar I think. And US power infrastructure is a disaster with all those overground lines. Every few month you hear 'thousands without power for extended times' after some storm.
Already many years ago when this electric car hype started I did a 10 minute back of the envelope calculation, and said: No No. My first job after school was designing equipment for power stations. That company build transformers so big you needed a ladder to climb on those.
One issue with electric only transport is that if there is an emergency (and there will be) and no power and you have to wait for cloudless weather so your car is charged, then many will die. So you need diesel or some other fuel for emergency vehicles anyways. All the busses burning down by the dozens in Germany, those cars create lots of emergencies Sure, seems Elon moves to lifepo4 batteries, Learning curve, people will find out charging is not so simple. Think like Joerg I think he still has an old diesel?
Make sure you have a bike at hand too!
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Rick C
This is why it is impossible to have a conversation with you. You can't stay on topic. You talk about "lack of power infrastructure", then link to something about bus fires, a totally separate issue which has also been addressed many times here, but you choose to ignore.
So you don't really want to talk about any of this do you? You are just being a troll, no?
More trolling...
I am very optimistic about solar and wind, but you provide no evidence that my optimism is unfounded. Clearly you are still trolling...
??? Every country in the world uses above ground power lines. So more trolling...
No, no Nanette?
I'm sorry for that company. If you can't understand simple issues with EV charging, I don't see how you could do any useful engineering work.
Lol! Do you ever read any of the conversations in this group? This has been discussed many times. What was said in those conversations?
Why??? Why can't you ever complete a though???
It's too bad Germany can't build cars and busses that don't burn so easily. The rest of the world seems to do ok (except for Chevrolet).
You still have not explained anything about this, so clearly you are just trolling...
Lol... If you decide to actually engage in a conversation, let me know.
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Jan Panteltje
On a sunny day (Sun, 24 Oct 2021 23:56:06 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Rick C snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:
The only one trolling, and you have been doing this for a long time, is you with your endless link to teslala to get a few bucks. Your electronics content is zero.
My newsreader has a feature to deal with that, lemme try.
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Rick C
See?! When someone calls you on your s*it you just run and hide. I knew you were never going to have a real conversation. It's just not in you. That's why you post silly things and write in goofy styles. You are just playing and don't actually have anything to say. At least now you will stop with the silliness.
Goodbye.
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