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This is astonishing:

It reminds me of the great BP Gulf oil spill. What happened to all that oil and methane? Critters ate it.

You lived in New Orleans: it's like France, they'll eat anything down there. If Chernobyl had happened in France, those fungi would be served in four-star restaurants.

Kinda what I was saying.

Been said that they will eat what we call the Orkin Man for. A joke but pre tty true.

And nobody beats the Israelis in that shit. They had a problem with locusts and some Jews figured out a way to cook them and sell them, and people wer e eating them. Actually I think that is some damn good thinking. If people will eat them, hell you know they are free range. Probably the most nutriti ous thing in the world ! Really.

Shit, when you eat shellfish, what is that ? Barnacles ?

Oh boy, them Jews better consult with a Rabbi before opening up the chain o f locust restaurants. They'll have to make sure this new dish is Kosher. If it is, it is probably also Halal (sp) so they can sell it in Palestine and make a fortune.

How would you measure the difference? Would the W/M^2 on the earth's surface increase?

Eventually the sun will become a red giant and fry Earth, or even expand into contact with Earth. We'll need to move the planet to a higher orbit.

On Tue, 20 Oct 2015 17:10:43 -0700, John Larkin Gave us:

We will all be bacon crisps long before that time comes.

That is not possible.

In *this* solar system, Mars is our ONLY hope of surviving when those centuries come to pass. And as the Sun actually begins to go Red Giant, living on Mars will also not be possible.

It's not only possible, it's easy. It will take a while, but we have lots of time.

When I was there they decided to eat nutria. Pretty tasty, I heard, but it never caught on. If nutria liked those fungi, they could be the next great thing--fungi-fed nutria.

Now they just need something that eats cockroaches.

Cheers, James Arthur

Your post could be interpreted that way, or as a simple denial.

I made the point explicit. If you been all that clever in the first place, you could have done that too.

"Brighter" is ambiguous in the original context. I didn't disambiguate it in my original post, because it didn't matter to my argument how the sun has delivered more heat the earth in recent (billions of) years.

You'd probably measure the difference by putting a radiometer in orbit.

Since anthropogenic global warming works by raising the effective radiating latitude higher into the earth's atmosphere, measuring the Watts per square metre at sea-level probably isn't a useful approach.

The proposition that the sun is heating us more now than it did a few billion years ago doesn't seem to be based on direct observation but rather on astrophysics - stars like the sun seem to evolve in a tolerably predictable way.

It would be difficult, but shouldn't be beyond a sufficiently advanced tech nology.

Homo Erectus is the longest surviving human species so far - they lasted 2 million years.

The earth is likely to remain habitable for another billion years ago, and it's unlikely that we'll be around then. Re-engineered humans, with error-d etecting and -correcting codes built into the DNA might last that long, but we wouldn't be able to breed with them, so they'd be a different species, and probably a lot of different species, each engineered for a different ec ological niche in this solar system. We might even colonise other solar sys tems (if they haven't colonised us first).

Locusts (of certain species) are halal and kosher. There are disagreements on which species.

I'm not sure selling anything to Palestine is a road to riches.. but there are > 1.5bn other Muslisms who might buy a tasty locust burger and of course there's nothing stopping hungry Xtians and many others from chowing down.

Fast food is frequently modified for the market- I think this Emirates "Tower" burger looks pretty good (as far as BK food goes), for only DHS 17 ea. So why not a locust burger?

Some Aussie boffin has suggested renaming them "sky prawns" to make them more acceptable to Western sensibilities.

There's this little fella too:

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That's great. The price doubles when you call them "prawns."

pretty true.

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I had fried grasshoppers somewhere, either Africa or Asia (I can't remember ). They were very good, crunchy, salted. Tasted about like peanuts.

So if AGW favors bugs, we can always just eat bugs. The People Who Know Be tter (but who prefer caviar) are already saying we plebes should.

Suits me.

Cheers, James Arthur

An excellent idea. Chinese gooseberries became far more popular when they were dubbed "kiwi fruit".

Fried/BBQ'ed grasshoppers are a popular bar snack in much of Southeast Asia. I had some when my wife and I toured Laos last year. Quite good... the flavor is about halfway between BBQ'ed shrimp, and Fritos corn chips (I suspect the critters were raised on a diet of cornmeal).

Deep-fried tarantula legs (Cambodia) are similar in both taste and texture.

Can you herd grasshoppers? Cowboys become bugboys?

Does the world need saving?

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Funny, ain't it, how the people wanting to save the planet are ever the one s who wanna spend it into oblivion?

Anyone worried about humanity's effect on the planet needs to check out wha t their local rainforest does to ancient ruins in .75 to 1.2 jiffies. Or jus t visit Detroit, same same.

Cheers, James Arthur

Already there: it's Luna. Just A/B compare the brightness of the reflection off the undisturbed solar-illuminated lunar surface with any conveniently located astral light source. Do it at night

Seriously, photosphere temperature and disc size are easily measured, and the Stefan-Boltzman radiation law is well established; solar measurements are routine.

The earth's atmosphere is opaque at some wavelengths, and at those wavelengths you are measuring the temperature of the Earth's atmosphere, not that of the moon or the sun.

This does involved the assumption that the sun's surface is a perfect radiator, at all wavelengths. The fact that helium's absorptions lines were first observed in the solar spectrum does illustrate that point that this isn't entirely realistic.