Financial Problem?

Jun 30, 2011 100 Replies

On Jul 3, 7:52=A0pm, Fred Bloggs

You can expect to see stuff like this on the DIY seminar agendas at Lowes and HomeDepot soon:

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/forrest-jehlik/

First that's not an argument that's a personal attack. Second he writing it as an official press release from the Argonne National Laboratory which is part of the Department of Energy so I'm sure it had to go through a review process before being released. But maybe the Argonne National Laboratory and any other government 'green energy' spending should be eliminated as part of government spending cuts.

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I put half a minute into Google, and I see that on June 14th the Senate voted 59-40 against repeal of the ethanol subsidy.

Awfully heavily along party lines, with Republicans voting 90% against the repeal, Democrats voting 72% in favor of repeal.

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Lots of corn-growing states have low representation in the House of Representatives, but as much representation each in the Senate as TX, CA and NY.

And if the repeal did pass both houses of Congress, it gets sent to the White House. The relevant official there is from a state appearing to me to be a corn-growing one.

It appears to me the price of corn keeps going up due to artificial demand from the ethanol subsidy. The effort at repealing that recently failed.

- Don Klipstein (don@donklipstein.com)

And grain farmers love the somewhat-popularized diet attitude that "grains are what food eats" - but that's another point.

If not for the ethanol subsidy, USA's corn farming industry would grow a higher percentage of its corn as human-edible corn and return USA to its past position as a global superpower corn exporter. And some of the non-human-food-intended corn farming operations would return to their former wheat farming operations and return USA to its past position as a superpower wheat exporter.

And unlike corn, these don't get gigabucks per year in subsidies.

- Don Klipstein (don@donklipstein.com)

An answer has been known for a goodly century already - crop rotation.

Not that I believe Iowa has totally lost its ability to grow corn...

I agree that AGW exists. But in (what I think is) the unlikely event its degree of existence is that proposed by most of the proponents of its existence, Canada will become an agricultural superpower.

- Don Klipstein (don@donklipstein.com)

de/forrest-jehlik/

It is not an attack, it is an explanation of their ignorance. If it did go through a review it was more of a spellcheck than anything else, and certainly not a fact check. ANL will promulgate as much misinformation as they can get away with to further their self- interests and funding.

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No we wouldn't, the same about of spending would go to "corporate welfare"!

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Yeah, sure. By the same token the "courts" never did anything about the perpeTraitors of "Love Canal". Nor many other ugly corporate externalizations of costs. They weren't actually illegal, just ethically ugly.

There has to be balance and corporate accountability as well. Of course the biggest part of the problem is the government sponsored corporations.

No, i am not a lover of corporations (especially nigh impossible to regulate mega-corporations, see cars, banks, oil vendors, and much of the NYSE top 100).

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Crop rotation is only a small part of the equation now. Truly sustainable modern farming is the "no-till" method, it actually builds the soil structure.

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There are no such trusts IDIOT!!! SS is a transfer payments system and has been so since the very beginning. The politicians have conned the sheeple with that old "insurance/trust fund" gag since the beginning.

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The text of the original act by Congress is here (item 2 in the above articles references):

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It's your nation too, learn what the laws really say.

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The actual pay isn't all that much. The major compensation comes from corruption.

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Riiight. Show the legislation that provides this. Better, read the actual SS legislation then tell us what it says (but not before reading).

See reference item #2 in the wikipedia article.

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And being primarily a food exporter instead of a tech products exporter = is a much lower standard of living.

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There never was any such trust fund. SS, as always, is a transfer payments system. Read the law that created it. How do you think they started paying benefits just as soon as the system was created? Where = did that money come from?

That's obvious.

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Halfway cogent. Didn't think you were still able to reach that.

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The poor economy is the reason the shortfall occurred in 2010. But the shortfall was expected to occur in about 2016 anyway. When the economy recovers, social security will still be taking in less than it pays out.

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Do you really think there is anything in there but an IOU with your children's name on it?

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Care to explain to me how that differs from any other government bond? sheesh...

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That's *exactly* the point! Duh!

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