Sounds more like a discourse in entomology, some people around here are dre aming if they think they have free will, or even consciousness:
Published on May 21, 2014 After Cass Sunstein co-wrote bestseller Nudge on behavioral economics with Richard Thaler, he went on to run the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs from 2009-2012, acting as the President's top regulator .
But some of his more curious -- and controversial -- research is on conspir acy theories: how they work, and why they're often rational for people to b elieve. His new book, Conspiracy Theories and Other Dangerous Ideas, detail s this research. He spoke with Ezra Klein on his theory, and how it helps e xplain the disagreements between our current political parties.
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Ever read one of Cass Sunstein's books?
He's the prototypical "Person Who Knows Better," who wants to lovingly make all those choices for you that you're too stupid to make for yourself.
His addled stream-of-unconsciousness book on rumors is a riot. Sunstein's particularly troubled people could believe Big Brother--who loves them--eve r hung out with radicals, or might possibly even not love them.
His solution is to lovingly regulate the internet to prevent people saying such things. Chilling, he calls it. (His word, not mine.)
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Of course your kind would say that, you think you're unique, well reasoned and sophisticated, you can't stand the idea of being characterized so simpl y so you attack him.
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spiracy theories: how they work, and why they're often rational for people to believe. His new book, Conspiracy Theories and Other Dangerous Ideas, de tails this research. He spoke with Ezra Klein on his theory, and how it hel ps explain the disagreements between our current political parties.
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I'm not the one saying people need to be censored and controlled. He is. It's not like he's hiding it either--he says it straight-out.
Polysci spin-major Ezra Klein is amazing to polysci majors, but them only. And dishonest--Ezra was one of the many journolisters caught actively collu ding to dissemble, smear, slam, bury, and promote topics (and people) in the new s as a group, as necessary in order to promote Obama in 2008.
Lots of their Sarah Palin myths persist to this day.
He should've been run out and ruined over such a complete lack of integrity , but he's on a side that doesn't mind that sort of stuff.
Sunstein's a law professor over at Harvard. IOW, a manipulative, sneaky, anti-freedom type of no particular accomplishment. Of course he means well, which makes it all okay.
These People Who Know Better are actually jerks who don't.
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luding to dissemble, smear, slam, bury, and promote topics (and people) in the news as a group, as necessary in order to promote Obama in 2008.
Well, Karl Rove had demonstrated that that kind of activity paid for Republ icans and the Democrats had learned their lesson.
The fact that Sarah Palin really is a malicious air-head does keep some of these "myths" more current than you might expect.
ty, but he's on a side that doesn't mind that sort of stuff.
Karl Rove is an emblem of respectablity? Reagan's Oliver North was probably a worse fleck on the Republican image, but Reagan could do no wrong - at l east in James Arthur's eyes.
James Arthur is a leading exponent of double-think. but he's outdone himsel f here.
George Orwell had him exactly - today Orwell's sheep would be bleating "Rep ublicans good, Democrats bad".
The presidential image is a construct - look at Reagan's - and you and France are mad to hang onto a system with a built-in cult of personailty.
such things. Chilling, he calls it. (His word, not mine.)
I've often wondered who might be paying James Arthur to act the way he does. He really may have been brainwashed, but money could have similar effects.
As opposed to Karl Rove, who was a manipulative, sneaky,anti-freedom type with rather too many accomplishments to his credit. Of course he meant well by the Republicans, which made it all okay.
James Arthur does claim that he knows better, but he's unconscious of the extent that his brain-washing has blinded him to evidence that doesn't fit his world-view. Or maybe he's just lying for money.
Care to explain what bearing that bit of misinformation has to do with his evidence based characterization of conspiracy theories and the type of people who subscribe to them?
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A recent poll indicates the majority of Americans have heard enough of Sara h Palin. This is good new because the political right will drop her.
Okay, I listened to the whole thing and Sunstein comes off better than expected. Better than in his book "On Rumors." Better as in "sincere," partly right, and partly blind. He's ever so definitely confirmed as one of the Do-Gooders Who Know Better, which is just plain annoying.
Definitely someone who should NEVER hold the power to decide other people's lives.
Ezra's scatter-brained rambling gossip is miserable to listen to. Check out the quote below, not even selected for its inanity. I've little patience for Ezra.
It was funny to hear their group-think echo Bill Sloman, assuming as a given that people can only hold judgements as if vessels full of what others have fed them; total reliance on authorities, like Bill.
And then, they're even comfortable with it personally, admitting they know nothing about climastrology, but vexed at their ability to win over the "conspiracist" doubting hordes.
Don't you think it's brilliantly ironic to hear someone who originated and operated an exclusive, partisan discussion list coordinating journalistic opinion,[1] breathlessly speculating at 200 words a minute about the danger of people being polarized by surrounding themselves with similar voices?
EZRA: ...That has ended, and, in ending this gets into some research you've done before about, if you kinda set an issue loose in a room where there are people of different opinions and in a room where there are people of the same opinions, the room with people of the same opinion[sic] will wind up with the somewhat more extreme view on the issue. And political parties have become more like rooms of people with the same opinion than rooms of people with different ones. And so I do somewhat wonder in terms of that theory being right, how much the structural conditions in which that theory is typically right are changing, and if they are changing in ah, in a negative way whether we think that's kindofa[sic] blip, or whether we think that's a trend that's going to continue unbroken and gonna get worse.
[1] Here's them chatting on how to handle Obama's Jeremiah Wright problem-- call people "racists."
colluding to dissemble, smear, slam, bury, and promote topics (and people) in the news as a group, as necessary in order to promote Obama in 2008.
egrity, but he's on a side that doesn't mind that sort of stuff.
pected. Better than in his book "On Rumors." Better as in "sincere," part ly right, and partly blind. He's ever so definitely confirmed as one of the Do-Gooders Who Know Better, which is just plain annoying.
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given that people can only hold judgements as if vessels full of what others have fed them; total reliance on authorities, like Bill.
I do pick and chose my authorities, and know quite a bit about them. I've e ven got enough scientific training to have some direct appreciation of the scientific debate on anthropogenic global warming , which James Arthur clea rly hasn't.
Anybody who - like James Arthur - thinks that the US constitution is the la st word in national constitutions, has put his faith in a single set of rat her unimpressive authorities
know nothing about climastrology, but vexed at their inability to win over the "conspiracist" doubting hordes.
I don't see that James Arthur is in any position to be rude about ideas abo ut climate science. His own authority there seems to be the Heartland Insti tute
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and when push comes to shove, he bases his insights on recalled conversatio ns with people he can't identify, rather than papers from the peer-reviewed literature. He's either a liar-for-hire or - more likely - one of their du pes.
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does go into the mechanisms that persuaded respectable but right-wing scien tists (not that James Arthur is anything of the kind) that preserving the f reedom of the free market was more important that mere scientific facts.
ly colluding to dissemble, smear, slam, bury, and promote topics (and peopl e) in the news as a group, as necessary in order to promote Obama in 2008.
ntegrity, but he's on a side that doesn't mind that sort of stuff.
expected. Better than in his book "On Rumors." Better as in "sincere," pa rtly right, and partly blind. He's ever so definitely confirmed as one of t he Do-Gooders Who Know Better, which is just plain annoying.
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even got enough scientific training to have some direct appreciation of th e scientific debate on anthropogenic global warming , which James Arthur cl early hasn't. ZZZZ Bill is a pompous fool with a big opinion of himself. You can get bett er discourse out of a sloppy drunk at a bar. :)
last word in national constitutions, has put his faith in a single set of r ather unimpressive authorities ZZZZ "unimpressive authority" who is it? Why it's you, you are talking abou t!
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bout climate science. His own authority there seems to be the Heartland Ins titute
ZZZZ Like your communist heroes, you try to make a wreckage out of everythi ng that doesn't agree with you. You are a big waste of time, and epitomize the "useful idiot."
ions with people he can't identify, rather than papers from the peer-review ed literature. He's either a liar-for-hire or - more likely - one of their dupes.
ZZZ You are a name-calling phony, so who are you to criticize others. You d o nothing, absoutely nothing, to benefit others, so why bring your pathetic poison here?
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entists (not that James Arthur is anything of the kind) that preserving the freedom of the free market was more important that mere scientific facts.
The do-nothing pompous loud mouth, from his smelly garage in Sydney with a collection of dead cats from the area.
ve even got enough scientific training to have some direct appreciation of the scientific debate on anthropogenic global warming , which James Arthur clearly hasn't.
tter discourse out of a sloppy drunk at a bar. :)
It might look that way to Haitic. He knows too little to have useful conver sations with people who know what they are talking about. Telling him that he's missed the point makes him distinctly unhappy, and in no mood to learn where he's screwed up.
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Bizarre logic. I'm not any kind of authority on the US constitution, beyond knowing enough to be aware that it's antiquated, clumsy, and doesn't work very well.
know nothing about climastrology, but vexed at their inability to win over the "conspiracist" doubting hordes.
about climate science. His own authority there seems to be the Heartland I nstitute
hing that doesn't agree with you. You are a big waste of time, and epitomize the "useful idiot."
Haitic is dim enough to confuse socialism with communism. The socialists th rew out the proto-communist in 1870 - on the very reasonable grounds that t he "leading role of the party" was undemocratic, and likely to lead to desp otism - as indeed it did. The communists did continue to claim to be social ist, and Lenin's "useful idiot" description was of people silly enough to b elieve them - which obviously has to include Haitic.
ations with people he can't identify, rather than papers from the peer-revi ewed literature. He's either a liar-for-hire or - more likely - one of thei r dupes.
do nothing, absoutely nothing, to benefit others, so why bring your pathet ic poison here?
Haitic really doesn't know what he is talking about - as usual. I do at lea st post under my own name, and I've provide links to the patents I've got - all three of them - and the papers I've published, which don't amount to m uch either, but still a whole lot more than Haitic seems to be able to lay claim to.
A trifle ironic. Haitic is one of the more prominent tripe merchants around here. He's just as dim as krw, but more locquacious.
I'd missed the bit about the smelly garage and the dead cats.
Our block of flats does have a basement garage, but Shaun the cleaner must remove any dead cats before they start to stink (not that I've noticed any) , because it smells fine.
And I'm not a complete do-nothing - I've been the treasurer of the NSW bran ch of the IEEE for a few months now. There wasn't a lot of competition for the job, which isn't all that onerous - the IEEE has about 3000 members in NSW and about half-a-dozen chapters. I've put about a dozen transactions th rough our bank account in the last month, and gone to a couple of lectures to see how the money was being spent.
The "whole" thing? All 15 minutes of it pertaining to conspiracy theory? That sort of indicates an attention span problem.
You couldn't have possibly even read those books. Now admit it, you're just echoing some right-wing half-assed review, isn't that right?
The vast majority of people are in fact hopelessly ignorant AND ineducable, and they make the American political system the cesspool and circus it is today.
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