This will reduce the impedance at the operating frequency, which is just as bad.
Now, you could add an R+L, so it's lossy only at the low frequencies it squeggs at. This still affects the high frequency impedance, increasing distortion, but not by as much. Or an RLC, so it resonantly damps against the circuit (which itself looks like a capacitor), which requires tight tuning, but can achieve even higher out-of-band impedance.
Tim
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I know. I've done it. It doesn't have to take long to be tedious.
Any particular "dual-winding" inductor? It's not a name I'm familiar with. As far as I'm concerned, any inductor carrying two or more separate but magnetically linked windings is either a transformer or a common mode choke.
People call these dual-winding inductors, probably because they are characterized to carry a lot of DC current. Of course they work nicely as transformers.
I used their big brothers in a power supply that we discussed here a while back.
Fairly early on it was appreciated that complicating the feed inductor by adding an extra LC section to block the second harmonic component reduced the harmonic content of the sinusoidal output without much damage the efficiency. It's mentioned on my web-site
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According to Tony Williams it was demonstrated in the early 1960s, but tuning the resonant trap to match actual oscillator frequency was too expensive to make it a practical option.
It's the first time I've heard of it being called a dual-winding inductor. There one in my Peltier thermostat paper
Sloman A.W., Buggs P., Molloy J., and Stewart D. =93A microcontroller- based driver to stabilise the temperature of an optical stage to 1mK in the range 4C to 38C, using a Peltier heat pump and a thermistor sensor=94 Measurement Science and Technology, 7 1653-64 (1996)
I called it a balun on page 1663 and in Figure 8. The - English - supplier called it a common mode choke.
I used them as transformers so I called them transformers. PADS lets you do that.
The other reason they are called "inductors" is that they have a specified inductance and tolerance. Transformers are seldom specified for inductance, and seldom specified for their DC current capacity.
It really doesn't matter what you call them. What you call them shouldn't constrain what you are willing to use them for. You could use these as baluns, common-mode chokes, inductors, power transformers, signal transformers, flyback transformers, resistors, or RTDs. Nice little parts.
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I hi-potted a $1.60 common mode choke at 15kV (peak, AC) between windings. Leakage is big of course, but still usable for a few things.
Planar transformers of course you can use however the hell you want; just make sure you have enough clearance around the routed holes to stand off the voltage you need. Slower to design in, but as cheap, and lower leakage.
Tim
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Unless you want other people to know what you are talking about.
Obviously.
They are a bit bulky for use as resistors and RTDs. The bulk might be useful if you wanted to dissipate a significant amount of power, but it strikes me as an expensive way of getting it.
We follow proper conventions for reference designators. A resistor is R1, not RN1 or RV1 or POT1. A transistor is Q, not T or TR or TRN or any of that nonsense. Since thess parts look like a transformer [1] on the schematic and act like a transformer, I called them T on the schematic. When we use these as inductors, we put the windings in series or in parallel and call them L.
[1] except that they have two cores. That's because the part was created as two inductors, and we plopped them alongside one another to make it look like a transformer.
If you allow yourself to think, more opportunities are available. Add "gain control device" to the list. Maybe even "delay line."
With two coils you could use one as a "saturable reactor"
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I've never seen it done. and would have thought - as the wikipedia article does - that the approach is close to obsolete.
You can build up delay lines out of all sorts of RLC components. I hadn't realised that common mode chokes had anything special to offer as the inductive components in such a synthesis.
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does use two-coil inductors, but controls the coupling between the two coils - his example circuit (figure 7) relies on having 50% coupling, which a common mode choke wouldn't offer.
Some are bifilar wound, some not. The length of the winding - and thus the delay - isn't something the manufacturer specifies all that tightly on the data sheet, and might change without notice if they changed core materials.
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