Another goofy MOS symbol...

Nov 01, 2017 15 Replies

...This time, spotted in a TI switchmode controller (LM25119) worksheet:



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Tim


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Looks like they lifted it from a UK passenger train

P+N channel?

Reinhardt

Looks trans-sexual.

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

Business slow? So another superfluous post to keep your name in print ?>:-}

A symbol is just a short-hand way to convey information. (And this symbol fits the tight space.)

Is it not clear that it is NMOS (body diode arrow)?

The extra arrow certainly makes it clear which end is the source.

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And not even political.

Lots of things make the polarities obvious.

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I could make a symbol... a babe, one tit up, one tit down, a "pin" on each and assign a couple other orifices as "pins"... it would still simulate as an NMOS (_if_ I assigned an appropriate model NMOS to the "symbol" ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

Not at all, indeed found in the course of the current job, which will fill out a sizable fraction of the year's income.

I'd post more about the job, but, y'know, NDAs and all that. ;-)

Tim

Seven Transistor Labs, LLC Electrical Engineering Consultation and Contract Design Website: https://www.seventransistorlabs.com/

I there, in general, a lot of demand for "real" electronic designers?

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc picosecond timing precision measurement jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com

2017 has been just nuts round here.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Chip design work has been down from last year... mostly due to my being pretty much out of commission with the cancer treatments, but Spice modeling requests have boomed... and I can do that without any travel and on my own schedule... no meetings, minimal "design" reviews. ...Jim Thompson

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Cool... the control electrode has ohmic contact to substrate? I thought nowadays insulated gates ruled! :)

piglet

I didn't know you could get power switching MESFETs, but there you have it!

Tim

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Nah, you can tell from the cyclic arrows that it's actually a supercurrent switch. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Neeerp! It's "clearly" a PNP with a voltage-enhanced base region ;-) ...Jim Thompson

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Ick. I suppose it's gotta be power NMOS, with the arrow indicating the opposite of the parasitic channel diode. But, now I'll have to THINK about it when next I see a JFET symbol.

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