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snipped-for-privacy@myshop.com wrote in news:n342jelsnpvottebusslrit3um4pkcodoc@

Those are the world over, and you incorrectly chose "cellphones" when clearly kids today are addicted to "stupid shit".

"Cellphones" are a sub-group of the "stupid shit" group, so you were close.

America has estimated a huge loss in productivity due to employees thinking that stopping work to entertain personal endeavors is an OK thing.

It is that damned NYC criminal landlord mentality thing creeping in again.

NO, idiots! There is no "do whatever the f*ck you want" crap in the workplace. You should all get shitcanned.

The satellite to cell-phone connection is tenuous. A better bogeyman would be the invention of the flat lithium battery. The cell-phone popularity never would have happened with Ni-Cd batteries.

Russia was the first in orbit.

Must have been a cold war plot.

And there is little proof that even satellites, much less landing on the moon, lead to cell phones. Claiming satellites lead to GPS would be accurate.

Cell phones run on cell towers. Very few people have sat phones and most of them work for a government somewhere or their contractors.

There still are transatlanic cables but the satellites make it so much easier if you want to call someone in Britain from the US.

Having an ordinary telephone conversation over a geostationary satellite link is painful due to the propagation delay. You had to wait a l o o n g time (nearly half a second) after the opponent stopped talking before you should start talking to avoid duplicates. .

On the plus side, at least the kids aren't addicted to Tang!

Not while Donald Trump is around.

And the propostion that the Apollo program had anything to do with cellular telephones seems irrational.

The classic Bell Labs paper on cellular mobile telephony doesn't say anythi ng about satellite links - even low orbit satellites are too far away for t he customers to let the cell diimensions get small enough to be useful.

The Iridium system never made any money - it turned out that there weren't enough customers in place where the population density was too low to suppo rt a decent density of cell towers (partly because cell phones became popul ar rather faster than the Iridium plan had anticipated).

Telstars 1 and 2 were in space by 1963. Communications satellites were already a thing.

The moon landings were little more than a distraction. Unfortunately, they lea on to the shuttle, which probably put manned space development back 25 years.

That's if we actually need manned space development, which is far from clear. Going back to the moon is as pointless as going to the moon was in the first place. A great adventure, for sure, but not much else.

Ditto going to Mars, though if Musk wants to find people, not being tax payers, to finance it, I suppose it's up to him.

Sylvia.

I beg to differ. The cell phone would have been larger and heavier, but so much as to make it unusable.

Specific Energy Energy Density Watt-hr/kg Watt-hr/liter LiPo 200 500 NiCd 30 100

For the same level of performance and runtime, if today's cell phones were powered by a NiCd battery, the battery section (not the whole phone) would be 200/30 = 6.7 times heavier and 500/100 = 5 times volumetrically larger than a LiPo battery.

I recall dragging around a bag phone powered by a lead-acid battery, and not complaining (much) about the size and weight. Imagine your present cell phone powered by 5 to 7 identical LiPo cells, instead of just one. The resulting phone would be larger and heavier, but not enough to make the phone unusable.

In his 1945 historic paper, Arthur C Clarke suggested three geostationary space stations to cover the communication needs of the whole globe. The stations had to be manned, so that the crew could replace failed tubes :-)

Other than that, I see practically no needs for manned spaceflight.

There's a spoof of that scenario, a motion picture masterpiece

Bill Sloman wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

That's because motorola developed it. They started in 1946.

AT&T 'conceived' of it (actual cell based telephony), but they went nowhere with it.

In 1968 the FCC allocated the 800 - 900 MHz band for it.

But no. Cell phone systems need no sat links to operate.

Sylvia Else wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net:

Yeah, and it had nothing to do with cell tech either.

You are not very bright. Sheesh. Whoever "taught' you should give his degrees back.

Fairchild semiconductor might beg to differ, and Intel would not even exist. You were saying?

Wow. You and Larkin should get married or start some secret retards with degrees society.

You really have no clue what is revealed in microgravity science experimentation then, eh? Again, you ain't all that bright... in the slightest.

How can you tell with those horse blinders on and dialed to a thin slit?

There are plenty of reasons to go to the Moon and to set up a base there.

After centuries we barely know what lies under our planet's watery covered surfaces. Yet we still explore.

As far as space or other low pressure environments. We still need to explore and expand our knowledge. Even if it is dangerous and a single mistake can kill. So what? A single mistake at an Antarctic base can kill too. Wake up, ditz. You would not even be typing this message or have anything (even something which is correct) stuffed into that brain of yours if it were not for the USA and NASA.

You are a disgrace to the science community.

You are an idiot... not much else, Else.

You are just riddled with bent perceptions. What a shame.

Modern-day cell networks need GPS. It is used for time-base synchronization at the cell site, among other things, such as E-911 location assist.

Such an emotional rant. Are you so worried that I might be right?

Sylvia.

Sylvia Else wrote in news:gpj9b9FacgkU1 @mid.individual.net:

I am worried that there are a number of idiots like you running around spouting pure bullshit. Are you related to Donald J. Trump?

You are about as right as an unflushed turd.

On Jul 20, 2019, Bill Sloman wrote (in article):

Well, there is an indirect connection - development of high-reliability semiconductors was very much driven by the needs of the space program, and of military systems.

worked out the theory. But the political decision was to keep the Bell System out of this area, because it was not legally obvious that cell phones should be a regulated monopoly (unlike landlines for instance), and letting a regulated monopoly into any unregulated market raises issues of cross-subsidy, where the monopoly uses monopoly profits to undersell all competitors.

So, Bell was not allowed to do anything, and Motorola became the first mover.

theory.

Joe Gwinn (Whose first job out of school was at the Federal Communications Commission - I was a teenage regulator)