AFCIs, MOVs, and Variable Speed Motors

Okay, so why does an AFCI trip during acceleration of variable speed motor with a MOV protected outlet strip between the AFCI and motor, but there's n o trip with the outlet strip removed, motor wired directly to AFCI. Must be some recovery issue with the MOV, and maybe there's a potential for variab le speed motor drives shortening the life of MOV protected outlet strips.

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Wild guess: the MOV clamps when accelerating and the clamping action shapes the current waveform to fool the ACFI to think it is a high frequency arc?

Clamped sine has overtones...

Or the ACFI is sensitive

Cheers

Klaus

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Klaus Kragelund

I think so too.

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does the outlet strip have movs connected to the saftey ground pin?

may be an accumulation of leakage to ground and the ground fault portion of the acfi is tripping.

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makolber

I'll look into it, but as I understand it the AFCI is not looking for a GND fault, it's looking for something like a line to neutral discharge similar to an arc through defective insulation.

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or maybe the MOVs have nothing to do with it, simply the added length of wire changing a resonance.

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makolber

I believe AFCIs are required to have ground fault detection at 50mA or less. It is typically 30mA. The idea is that an arc with a ground present may damage insulation and also involve a ground fault.

One of the manufacturers had UL test whether a "glowing connection" would cause a ground fault on a grounded receptacle. A "glowing connection" is a loose connection at the screw that produces a lot of heat, but is not (at that point) an arc. From memory, 25% or more caused deterioration that caused a ground fault trip.

The early AFCIs only detected at a current level that would see a "parallel" fault - line to neutral or ground. After about a year they would detect at a level (5 A?} that would detect a "series" arc (loose connection).

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