2TB upgraded to 32G

I brought the previous version of this, just trying to figure out the scam. It did not mention 32G before. So, i was gambling $10 on 2TB.

Now, they say 2TB upgrade with 32GB memory chip. Still not accurate.

Actually, 32GB faked as 2TB.

Buyer beware.

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m. It did not mention 32G before. So, i was gambling $10 on 2TB.

Lol! I like that! What a cool way to try to con people.

I've seen Flash memory scams on eBay before. They are easy to spot. If yo u look at all the similar devices you will find a price point most don't go below, then the ones that do go below are far below. Like most vendors ch arging $15 for a given size device, then you see a few that are below $10 w ith none or few in between. Every one of the low price devices are much sm aller Flash with a "fix" to make them look like the larger device they are being sold as.

There are several Flash test programs you can use to verify that the device does not have the memory claimed. At one point I was a bit ticked about t his and I would buy from several of these vendors at a time, test the devic es, then file a claim with eBay. None of the vendors fight it although the y do sometimes play dumb and ask you to accept a partial refund since they were also victims of the "dishonest factories". lol

It is exceedingly easy to get your money back on eBay items. You just need to file within the indicted period, 2 months I believe. If the vendors wa nt the item back they have to pay for the shipping too. They won't do that .

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Maybe you ordered the wrong color.

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Just too fake to be true. And they give you all the hints. Actually, 0-32GB read/write and 32G-2TB write only drive.

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32GB read/write and 32G-2TB write only drive.

Writing to anything beyond the actual 32 GB will have undefined effects, us ually clobbering something in the first 32 GB. These drives are trash at t hat point unless you can reformat them back to 32 GB which may require spec ial hardware, but for sure special software.

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snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@googlegroups.com:

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CAN YOU REALLY BE THAT STUPID?

NO, IDIOT there are NO terabyte chips yet.

256GB.

So ity is not buyer beware, idiot. It is get off the purchase sites if you are too stupid to spend money wisely.

And buddy, you thinking that some lame ass made 2TB chips before sandisk or samsung came out with them? Yeah, that pretty succinctly puts you in the "should not be allowed to spend any money" without multiple supervisors category.

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DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno

I knew it would be 32G to 64G. And I knew i can "bargain after the sale" on ebay. It's just a new "bargaining model". The seller agrees to 50% refund.

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I thought you restricted such behaviour to responses to a specific poster. Widening your field?

Sylvia.

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Or, cram more than one chip in a package to get 2TB: Only $1,300: Ouch.

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Perhaps they planned on scamming people for hundreds, but liquidating for dollars instead. They could just sell a few and disappear. i just find it funny how they explain the chip upgrading.

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I guess there is a price premium for size. I just ordered a 2 TB flash dri ve (as in a 2.5 inch hard drive replacement) for my laptop for less than $7

  1. While there might not be 1 TB on a chip, a flash drive doesn't have to use only one chip. I would not be surprised to find 2 TB flash drives to b e available. Just not at a low price.
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dollars instead. They could just sell a few and disappear. i just find i t funny how they explain the chip upgrading.

eBay doesn't give them the money until the period for returns has expired. They are counting on most people to not figure out they are scammed in tim e. How many people will know to test the devices with a program that check s for real capacity? You can do your own test, but it would require writin g a lot of large files to fill up the drive, then verifying that they all h ave the correct contents.

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or dollars instead. They could just sell a few and disappear. i just find it funny how they explain the chip upgrading.

. They are counting on most people to not figure out they are scammed in t ime. How many people will know to test the devices with a program that che cks for real capacity? You can do your own test, but it would require writ ing a lot of large files to fill up the drive, then verifying that they all have the correct contents.

Not really. You just have to test a few bytes every GB.

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The price of SSD, M.2, MVMe, etc solid state drives are rapidly dropping. It will be a few years before SSD's drop to the price level of rotating memory. Right now, a 2TB SATA drive costs about $230: or 3.3 times what you paid for the rotating memory.

Price drop for a Samsung EVO 860 250GB seems to have dropped by 40% in

10 months, but then leveled off: About the same 40% drop for 1TB: Kinda looks like the release of some new technology and new products will be needed before the price can drop much more.

Incidentally, if you need a USB 3.1 interface, there are cheap USB to SATA adapters: I use something similar except it's only 250GB and slower USB 3.0.

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for dollars instead. They could just sell a few and disappear. i just fi nd it funny how they explain the chip upgrading.

ed. They are counting on most people to not figure out they are scammed in time. How many people will know to test the devices with a program that c hecks for real capacity? You can do your own test, but it would require wr iting a lot of large files to fill up the drive, then verifying that they a ll have the correct contents.

If you believe that, then go for it. If the memory wraps around on the exi sting memory in some manner, you might not see any problem unless you check for overwriting between blocks. You also can't be sure the chips will map the blocks evenly to the existing block. These chips are not set up to of fer binary powers of memory. They are sold in decimal numbers of words and with the disk formatting and error correction the mapping is not so clear.

There are reasons why the testing programs are written they way they are. Many are free, so why not use them?

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I'm jealous. As I write, I'm copying my movie and music archive from one USB 3.0 2TB hard disk, to a similar drive. Unfortunately, I decided to do it using a Chromebook 14 (CB3-431-C5FM), which conveniently had two USB 3.0 ports. I'm getting only about 1 GB/minute. At that rate, the 2TB copy should take 33.3 hrs. Chrome OS doesn't give me much in the way of performance diagnostics, so I can't tell where the bottleneck is located. Of course, I stupidly decided to copy the entire drive in one pass, so I can't interrupt the copy without making a mess. Argh.

If you're using Windoze, think of using the 1T HD for an image backup target drive: I get about 5GB/min backup speed from a SATA III SSD drive to USB 3.0 and about 8GB/min from SSD to another SATA drive in the same machine.

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They're probably on the same USB root hub. That doesn't work well. I get faster writes to my NAS over Gb Ethernet, about 40MB/sec, and much faster to/from a USB3 SSD.

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Ouch? I do not think so, dipshit.

The key word for you to go look up is CHIP. Not some lame stacked thumb drive.

The truly stupid behavior, however, is where you actually spent time searching. Here is a hint... The form factor is micro sd.

AGAIN, idiot... there are no terabyte CHIPs yet.

I thought it was stupid that you introduce your lame 'accent' to your Usenet posts 'computah' and such other stupid shit. Now I am convinced because no matter how smart you are, your lame personality shows through.

Now, you are actually stupid enough to believe that sandisk and samsung do not know what they are doing.

Par for the course for someone stupid enough to buy from tiger direct. That is a huge tell right there. msrp or higher is guaranteed.

And lets not forget that the entire post the lame f*ck made was off topic to start. Yet you guys want to actually suck up to his stupidity.

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Jeff Liebermann wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Yes that show up as an ATAPI drive at an extreme hit to data rates. They claim fast rates, but they show the drive's rate ability and the interface speed capability, not the actual interface capability

A USB 3.1 drive enclosure to USB-C with a USB C to A adapter. Even those can have lame interfaces on them. There are a few required chips. Otherwise it could be an old interface that they simply attached a USB 3.1 blue connector to and repackaged.

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