Panel mounted RJ45 sockets.

Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

Make one ! The sockets are cheap and so is Araldite.

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baron wrote in news:hrelte$54v$ snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal-september.org:

I thought of that already... I looked for a short extension with that in mind, and found this:

STRK:MEWNX:IT It's better, I only need to make a small bracket to clamp it behind a panel. Epoxy is a messy way to do things like this.

Even so, that one I found first is best, it's weird that they aren't all over the place like USB and audio connectors for panel mounting. Even the ITX scene which has been making custom boxes for years hasn't got this sorted yet. If you want USB and FireWire, the mainboard makers supply them, never mind other sources. Only RJ45 stuff lacks these choices. It's all specialised panels, exotic IP rated stuff, or very cheap PCB mounts. Chassis mounts exist, but rare, expensive even for the most basic. The only firm I found that makes them with practical results has to make their own and probably won't sell to the public. That eBay find was lucky, it's as close as I'll likely ever get, let alone cheaply.

Google "keystone jack"

CPC sell them, and a 'housing'.

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Cut up a wall plate made to hold the modular jacks. Then use a couple screws to mount it to the rear of the panel.

is an example that use modular jacks.

is one piece plastic.

They also have steel plates:

They list this for telephone use, but their telephone jacks are the same size as their Cat 5 jacks.

This is a US company, but you should be able to find something similar.

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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.com:

That too I wanted to avoid, but it is a good idea. Thanks for the linkage. If the eBay ones I found end up being tacky I'll look at this next.

Adrian C wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@mid.individual.net:

Interesting. While it might not best solve my current need, the fact that it adapts so many types neatly makes it one to check out so I will, though it appears I might lose the advantage of small fittings to large plates. :)

In the end there's no real substitute for the classic jack hole and two mounting screws thing. The eBay find is nice because a strip of metal and a drill is all I need to turn it into that. (Part of the 'cost' of a thing is finding a way to get it to me, and this is easiest so far).

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in news:8eGdnR4PrKaockfWnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.com:

That's useful. I wondered about that, but suspected that they might not provide all 8 lines, but I'll search specifically for phone stuff too.

Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

If you just want some RJ45 Sockets, I can send you some. They are PCB mounting, but easy to solder leads to. The reason I mentioned "Araldite" is because I have used it to mount and secure them in the side of project boxes. I have the above RJ45 wall plates as well ! They fasten into a standard 1" plaster board shell.

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Just make sure the plate & connector are the same brand. Some brands aren't interchangeable.

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Baron wrote in news:hrffvr$grp$ snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal-september.org:

Nice offer. Thanks. I'm ok though, those things I found on eBay are nice, they just need clamping somehow, no soldering or crimping or anything. I'm using them to take the stress off an ITX board in a 1U rack case so it can be reconfigured often, reliably, so if it plugs without extra fitting, so much the better.

On the other hand, if you're the Baron as in Rob of the band Amebix, then I do want to get in contact for sure, it's been over 20 years... >:)

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in news:vp6dnSznHc4W1EbWnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.com:

Yep, that's kind of the problem with them... looks like proprietary thinking beat common sense. It might explain why the simple standard of a chassis mount socket was so assiduously avoided by so many.

Lostgallifreyan Inscribed thus:

Sorry ! Fraid not... I haven't done anything with a band for nearly 50 years... ;-)

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I know they had problems finding something 10 years ago at Microdyne for their RCB-2000 & DR-2000 Telemetry systems. They finally found something, but the company would only sell them as part of a custom harness.

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Baron wrote in news:hri1gj$2lq$ snipped-for-privacy@news.eternal-september.org:

Ok. :) Well, it's a good name.

"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in news:Nf6dnWEMU840BEHWnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@earthlink.com:

That can sometimes be the cheapest way. One man's module is another man's whole device. :) I needed a PCI cable extender... I found a US who could sell me one a foot long at $30 plus $12 or more for shipping. By the time I got it I'd have been paying tax on it too. On eBay I found a 'hiper' PCI riser cable fitting in the UK for a dedicated box (same thing is available in the US). It has a black PCB too, very slick. Easy to trim with a carbide saw, the plugs stand opening and reusing so all I needed was cable. Total cost less than a tenth what the other one would cost, and it is far better quality. Digikey have that very fine pitch ribbon cable stranded as I want it. Actually neither the stranded or solid core fine-pitch cable is cheap, so if people want lots of foot-lengths of 60 way cables (or anything 80 or less) the cheapest method by far is to buy them ready made for computers complete with (totally unreusable) connectors, because they are easily found in any quantity for a quarter or less than their raw cable cost! Continued supply on this basis is almost guaranteed for many years.

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Here on 'tother side the pond this kind of stuff is readily available in snap in style mounts:

Does any of this come close?

"JosephKK" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

No, because it's exactly the thing I want to avoid. It's good stuff but it IS the design, whereas what I'm after is stuff that neatly fit into existing designs. Very few makers of RJ45 sockets have given any thought to that except for PCB mounting. Neutrik have made a decent panel mount jack but it's too big for confined spaces. I found an answer on eBay, a short (0.5 m) cable extension. I'll have to make some kind of bulkhead/panel clamp but all the connecting it needs is already done, I just plug things in with it. The best answer of all was similar, but a foot long and with two close-set mounting holes, one each side. Didn't look like it was for one-off public sale though, at any cost.

People have been mounting panel switches and other connectors for decades that way. RJ45 makers only seem to think of panels when they think the buyer wants ease of fitting them 48 at a time, minimum, they seem to have little if any concept of fitting one to an existing design where the smallest and most simple of standards applies. (Marking and drilling round holes).

Lostgallifreyan wrote in news:Xns9D6A878E143E1zoodlewurdle@216.196.109.145:

In case anyone else comes this way looking for an answer, this was mine:

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Or try

if word wrap wrecks the URL above. As eBay links expire, look for seller "kenable_ltd", they're a HUGE seller, with good record, so they ought to stick around unless they choose not to...

Then search their shop for Ethernet Network Extension Cable. Look for the shortest you need, they go down to 0.5m. They have CAT 5E cable with plug and socket on them. The socket is a square grey lump 21mm * 21mm * 27mm deep, and is fairly easy to drill with a 3mm bore, 4mm from each edge in each of two corners where the volume of the slightly bungy grey stuff allows it. Fixing centres will be 13 mm apart. It's best to drill right through the 27 mm depth, so hold the socket accurately... Unless you are very very bad at accurate drilling, you won't damage any internal wiring. Then use long M3 bolts and nuts to clamp the socket to the chassis. (Don't rely on self- tapping, the bungy stuff isn't resilient enough to be retained firmly for long that way. It won't crap out, but it will work loose annoyingly often).

What makes this worth doing is that it's the cheapest way by far, there is no soldering, no crimping, no cable handling at all except to lay it where you want it inside the equipment. It also occupies far less panel space that ALL other methods I found, and the result is very tidy. If you find a better way, do it, but that might not be easy, it hasn't been easy for over a decade, so it isn't likely to get easy now, unless customised ITX cases become an industry on the scale of that catering for overclockers. It might happen, but doing it this way is just a tad easier and more certain to work.

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