CK722 Fans

May 21, 2005 8 Replies

Seems to be a pent-up demand for those ol' timers, that just can't seem to be quenched. Always someone who's willing to pay exhorbitant prices for the nearly useless critters. There were three up for bid this week on Ebay, starting at $15 and buy it now for $30. Last I checked, they were all spoken for. Unfortunately I had to delete them from my items i'm watching and I don't have the item numbers. But the picture showed them sticking out of a DMM that had the transistor checker and the DMM read somethig like 77 for the gain, so they were apparently working. But they all looked like they had short leads, so presumably they were all pulls or from an experimenter's junque box. Who know what kind of abuse they had been subjected to?



I still have a datasheet for the 2N107, which was GE's answer to the CK722. I don't think it was ever as popular, and I don't remember what the price was or which was cheaper. But according to the GE manual, 4th Ed., the 2N107 and its NPN sister the 2N170 were rated for Vce= -12V, IC= 10mA and 50mW (107) and 6V, 20mA and 25mW (170). I don't think the CK722 was much better. Neither of my two substitution manuals from the early '60s has the CK722, so I don't have an authoritative source. If someone has a datasheet or other reference for the CK722, please post it. Thanks.


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CK722

PDmax = 4 milliwatt BV(cbo) = 22V Ic max = 10mA hfe = 30 (test condition unknown)

Extracted from the 1987 D.A.T.A.Book edition 57

I have a few. Why do I want them? Nostalgia! I wish I still had the super regen AM radio I built with my CK722 and CK768 in the 50's. If I could find a copy of the schematic, I would try to duplicate it. I still have some AM loopsticks from the 50's. Jeez, do I have a lot of junk in my basement!

Al

Al posted: "CK722

PDmax = 4 milliwatt BV(cbo) = 22V Ic max = 10mA hfe = 30 (test condition unknown)

Extracted from the 1987 D.A.T.A.Book edition 57

I have a few. Why do I want them? Nostalgia! I wish I still had the super regen AM radio I built with my CK722 and CK768 in the 50's. If I could find a copy of the schematic, I would try to duplicate it. I still have some AM loopsticks from the 50's. Jeez, do I have a lot of junk in my basement!

That's not junk. It's unresolved dreams of great enjoyment.

Don

After my first real summer job in 1955 working on a CNR steel relay gang in BC I stopped in Edmonton and bought two CK722s and a Weller soldering gun. I still have the gun and it works great. IIRC the two CK722s cost more than the gun. When I got home I started building an audio amp for my xtal set and one of the leads just broke off right at the case and I didn't mishandle it. I was finally able to a tack a lead back on. I then mounted the transistors on a separate pieces of wood and soldered the leads to fahenstock clips. Those 2 are long gone but I did find one in a junk box at a hamfest for free. I'm still a little hesitant to put it to use for fear a lead might break off. I've heard that germanium transistors don't age well and some kind of migration degrades their specs.

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After awhile the makers determined that since germanium couldn't be passivated like silicon, it was a Really Good Idea to put them in a hermetically sealed package, such as the TO-5, and later occasionally TO-18. But apparently the Raytheon manufacturing process was clean enough to allow those CKs to be in a package sealed with epoxy or some plastic, and still not get contaminated over the years. But a lot of the CKs were knockoffs from somewhere else or else rejects, and were destined to suffer some degradation over time. Their performance is so mediocre that they really aren't worth anything today except for collecible value.

And they certainly seem to be in demand by collectors. I should put the half dozen or so that I have up for sale on Ebay, but I don't really need the money that bad. I think I would be better off liquidating the stam collection that I have from when I was a kid; it could bring a few thou. But the prices of commemoratives don't seem to have gone up by more than 10 to 25% of their face value. So I don't think I'd be making minimum wage. :-(

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Hmmm, could be. I overhauled an HP synthesizer from the 1960's that must have had

100 Germainum transistors in it. There must have been 10 dead ones. I found one of the Motorola UHF silicon transistors (I forget, either MPSH10 or MPSH81) seemed to be a drop-in replacement for them. I did get it working, but it took way too much time. (This unit was definitely a decade later than the CK722 vintage transistors.)

Jon

Recently, i have repaired an old frequency divider (hp 5260A) from the mid/end of the sixties, in which a lot of silicon transistors (2N3904) all has lost their emitters (went open circuit, only remained a diode function from base to collector)... interestingly, nearly all transistors that i have found to be defectife due to aging process (not due to a suddenly hefty overload) went gone open emitter...

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Well, let us know which model that might be so we can avoid that one in the future. [:-)

I expect the synthesizecould be the 5100's series (5100A, 5105A, 5110A Synth. Driver) which in fact contains a whole lot of old germaniums. And step recovery diodes which also are made of unobtainium ;-) (similarly seldom as tunnel diodes)

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