PSoC Express: Does it work for semi-analog designs?

Interesting. Well, production would be in Asia anyhow and then maybe we'll let the assembler negotiate locally.

I was more thinking about Express. Don't know if that can do such tricks. Or if at least templates could be dragged from Designer to Express (projects can't be).

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We had a really deep freeze last night. Looks like it might have taken out one of the pool pumps. Oh drat. Where is that global warming? Certainly not here.

The pellet stove downstairs is running 24/7 and the wood stove cranks full bore all the time. Yet the house will barely go above 66F (17C?). In California houses just aren't built for such arctic weather. Looks like we'll buy six cords of firewood next year, or about three times the normal quantity. Whatever normal is these days.

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"Joerg" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:3d9qh.22682$ snipped-for-privacy@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... | I was more thinking about Express. Don't know if that can do such | tricks. Or if at least templates could be dragged from Designer to | Express (projects can't be).

I don't know because I dropped Express after 2 weeks effortless trying (and asking Cypress for help). Much simple things seem to be impossible in Express. Especially if you think Embedded. So I took the learning curve to Designer and there is now my home.

But why not ask Cypress?!

"Template" is undefined. Use "module".

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"Joerg" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:8h9qh.22683$ snipped-for-privacy@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... | The pellet stove downstairs is running 24/7 and the wood stove cranks | full bore all the time. Yet the house will barely go above 66F (17C?). | In California houses just aren't built for such arctic weather. Looks | like we'll buy six cords of firewood next year, or about three times the | normal quantity. Whatever normal is these days.

You heat my house thru the golf strom. Keep on!

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The real power of the PSOC is dynamic configuration. So at any given time in your code you can change the analog/digital blocks to suit whatever signal you need to evaluate. In my current design, I re-use the same analog block three times at different time slots. So in effect, the PSOC can give you more than 100% optimization of your analog blocks

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Henry Kiefer skrev:

Especially for the PSOC using a debug TX signal is powerfull, since you often need to know how an internal signal looks. Regretably the PSOC has limited analog output buffers (it would be nice to be able to debug using a scope to monitor many signals at the same time). Perhaps that's going to be improved in the next gen.

Lastly, beware of the datasheet. A lot of typical limits without guarenteed limits. For example the bias current into a pin is 20pA typical, and gross tested to 1uA. That is really the worst specmanship I have ever seen. Also the lack of any simulation models is also bad since it is difficult to evaluate a complex design over temperature and other sources of drift

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Weather is probably more variable with more energy held in the system. Should be interesting.

hehe. And I consider 66F to be toasty. I have to strip down to underwear at that temperature to be comfortable. That's when I sleep with no blanket... and I sleep on the floor, we've no beds here. I keep the thermostat held at 58F and the house is between 58F and 60F.

Just checked. Outside it is 31F and inside is 60F. House is warm to me and I'm in my bare feet, shorts and t-shirt.

Normal is changing. Much fun!

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Not from California. They are 2000 M (3000 km) away from the Gulf Stream. However you can send your contribution for heat to me here in Maine. The forecast is for 0 to -5 F (-20 C) in the next few days. So far it has been a very warm winter.

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asking Cypress for help). Much simple things seem to be

learning curve to Designer and there is now my home.

Oh, I will. But first I want to familiarize myself some more with Express. Before I embarrass myself.

Thanks. Got to learn Cypress-speak I guess.

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Yes, I realized some of that during the seminar. For example, if you want an ADC that has to run at more than 100Hz you don't get many bit with PSoC. But you can hook a PGA up front. If this is in a regulator loop you can then re-program the gain on the fly and effectively put in a vernier drive.

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That was actually the big turn-off for me in the past. Well, that and cost. I brought one of my designs to the seminar and showed it to them. "Here, this has 65 parts and costs $2.50 including PCB and final test. Can you beat that?" Who knows, maybe some day the 75c lower end of PSoC will be spruced up a bit and then I could really replace it. But not now.

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Sounds like the Alaska Airlines captain, "Looks like we've got another scorcher". Man, I hope this is over soon. Maybe we should install a third wood stove and plaster the driveway with firewood each summer :-(

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I am similar, my best working temperature in the office is around

64-66F. But my wife ain't happy at all if it isn't 70F, and right now we just can't get it up there. Same for the folks around us. They all crank their stoves hard but it won't heat up the house. My wife met a lady at a store who said they are already down to eight bags of pellets. Oh man, it's next to impossible to find any right now.

Certainly no warming out here. Feels more like the next ice age is coming.

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"Joerg" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:U5pqh.15926$ snipped-for-privacy@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net... | Henry Kiefer wrote: | | > "Joerg" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:3d9qh.22682$ snipped-for-privacy@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... | > | I was more thinking about Express. Don't know if that can do such | > | tricks. Or if at least templates could be dragged from Designer to | > | Express (projects can't be). | >

| > I don't know because I dropped Express after 2 weeks effortless trying (and asking Cypress for help). Much simple things seem to be | > impossible in Express. Especially if you think Embedded. So I took the learning curve to Designer and there is now my home. | >

| > But why not ask Cypress?! | >

| | Oh, I will. But first I want to familiarize myself some more with | Express. Before I embarrass myself. | | | > "Template" is undefined. Use "module". | >

| | Thanks. Got to learn Cypress-speak I guess.

As I'm a visual thinking guy I verified it in Designer: "User Module" they write

Cypress Support was always very helpful - even if the error was mine. Sometimes you must wait a couple of days to climb the support stages from Bangalore to California ;-)

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"Joerg" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:odpqh.15927$ snipped-for-privacy@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net... | "Here, this has 65 parts and costs $2.50 including PCB and final test. | Can you beat that?"

parts and test: That would be impossible to make in Germany or even the EU. So here it would be cheaper to use a costly PSoC. OK, in China they do it.

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"Joerg" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:89pqh.34186$ snipped-for-privacy@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... | Klaus Kragelund wrote: | | > Joerg skrev: | >

| >>Henry Kiefer wrote: | >>

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| >>>Annoying to see how fast you can change your mind ;-) | >>>

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| >>Nope, probably I am going to remain mostly analog. Even at 75c it is | >>often very hard to justify a PSoC when analog parts can do the same job | >>for half | >

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| > The real power of the PSOC is dynamic configuration. So at any given | > time in your code you can change the analog/digital blocks to suit | > whatever signal you need to evaluate. In my current design, I re-use | > the same analog block three times at different time slots. So in | > effect, the PSOC can give you more than 100% optimization of your | > analog blocks | >

| | Yes, I realized some of that during the seminar. For example, if you | want an ADC that has to run at more than 100Hz you don't get many bit | with PSoC. But you can hook a PGA up front. If this is in a regulator | loop you can then re-program the gain on the fly and effectively put in | a vernier drive.

Yes, that is the PSoC trick. Fine Joerg!

Please double-check that dynamic reconfiguration is possible in Express. I don't think so! There is a app note describing it in Designer.

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"Joerg" schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:Egpqh.15928$ snipped-for-privacy@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net... | CBFalconer wrote: | | > Henry Kiefer wrote: | >

| >>"Joerg" schrieb: | >>

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| >>>The pellet stove downstairs is running 24/7 and the wood stove | >>>cranks full bore all the time. Yet the house will barely go above | >>>66F (17C?). In California houses just aren't built for such arctic | >>>weather. Looks like we'll buy six cords of firewood next year, or | >>>about three times the normal quantity. Whatever normal is these | >>>days. | >>

| >>You heat my house thru the golf strom. Keep on! | >

| >

| > Not from California. They are 2000 M (3000 km) away from the Gulf | > Stream. However you can send your contribution for heat to me here | > in Maine. The forecast is for 0 to -5 F (-20 C) in the next few | > days. So far it has been a very warm winter. | >

| | Sounds like the Alaska Airlines captain, "Looks like we've got another | scorcher". Man, I hope this is over soon. Maybe we should install a | third wood stove and plaster the driveway with firewood each summer :-(

Here in the Oberlausitz it is common for traditional buildings to have at least

0.5m walls. Mostly wood. "Umgebindehaus"

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don't think so!

AFAICT it isn't available in Express :-(

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be cheaper to use a costly PSoC. OK, in China they do

Yes, it's Chinese production. But who would not produce it there? Thing is, if you come up with a more integrated solution at $4 and the competitior does it all in discrete for $2.50 they'll have you for lunch.

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least 0.5m walls. Mostly wood. "Umgebindehaus"

Here it's a whopping four inches (about 10cm).

:-(

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