# yes, useless, because I also have calibre 'running on a headless server', I mount the file system and run caliber on a desktop.
100% of all I need to do is dome with a combination of exported file systems and a terminal.I looked at running exported X, but it wasn't nearly as slick as e.g. webmin or phpadmin and friends
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There is a big difference in speed between X network transparency and ssh -X. The encryption/decryption and other overhead makes ssh -X much slower.
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However the latter depends on the former.
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Hmm so trains are useless because some people drive cars to get from a to b ?
Here is a *very* simple point for you - in order to export a filesystem you need root access to the machine holding that filesystem, in order to run an X application on a remote machine displaying on a local machine all you need is a login on both. I could just as easily run calibre for a thousand users my way and none of them would even be able to see anything but their own collection. Your way would require a thousand exports and anyone would be able to mount any export unless you restricted the exports to specific clients.
So *you* do not use it means that it is useless no matter how many other people find it useful ?
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[CUT]this thing was used in the '80 / '90, then someone invented VNC.
Bye Jack
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and this has absolutely nothing to do with the GUI.
Bye Jack
VNC exports a complete desktop to a remote display, X exports individual windows to remote displays.
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That is apart from the 'need for root to set it up' such ignorant tosh that its not worth responding to.
Lost of people use i-phones as a replacement for a ballpoint and a notepad too.
NO sysadmin worth his salt uses X to export sessions off a server.
99.9% of Xsessions are between a client and server on the same machine.Waypoint acknowledges that and aims to remove a minority interest that leads to massive complexity, with something simpler faster and less resource hungry.
I dont know if it will succeed, but that is the rationale.
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Translation every word of it is correct and you won't admit it. You are hereby exposed as a trolling idiot.
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sigh. How do you set up user accounts on your machine - the thousand user accounts you need to have a 'private caliber' for each one. Using root privileges.
If you e.g. exported /home as an NFS export, that is the only export you need. course your adduser script could be simply modified to add a discretely exported home dir as well, if you really wanted to do that
Bearing in mind that all users would have userids that would prevent than from farting round in other peoples home directories.
I supect you are from a MS windows background, and NFS, unix permissions and unix sysadmin principles are foreign to you and you feel you need a GUI for everything.
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Yes but *they* don't, they just need accounts on a box with calibre installed. I can run calibre on any machine I can log into which has it installed and I can display it on any machine I can log into which has X installed. I don't need root anywhere to do that. I can even install calibre (or anything else) into my home directory without root.
I can run *any* GUI application available on *any* machine I can log into and display it on *any* suitably equipped machine I can log into without troubling a sysadmin.
You assume that I have sufficient control over the server to set up exports, this is not always the case.
Oh yes and then there is the little detail of ensuring that everyone has the *same* userid on *all* the machines that may be used.
Another point for you - when you export your calibre collection by NFS you expose it to all the manipulations possible via the filesystem not just those provided by the application.
You supect very wrongly - I've never owned an MS Windows license and I have been developing software on unix systems since the early 1980s. FWIW it irritates me that I need to use a GUI with calibre but the command line usage is impossibly clumsy for anything but the simplest of tasks.
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Which exports an entire desktop, with the additional resources that this requires (including a GUI login for each user).
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