HDMI cable: Any difference in Belkin vs. Audioquest cable?

Should not have any difference when everythign works properly.

HDMI is digital signal that normally goes through the cable without any alternation. If the thign get so bad that the bits start changing (broken cable, loo long cable, strong interference etc..) then you will definately see that something is wrong.

At normal short few meter logn HDMI cables the data should go smoothly no matter which HSMI cable you use. When trying to make very long cable runs then with some equipment combinations some cheaper cables might nor work but with some other equipment they work without problems.

The more expensive HDMI cable could be marginally better (but there is no guaratee that it is) in electrical characteristics than some cheaper cable. The better electrical characteristics might have some effect in case you are making so long cable run that the HDMI data transfer will barely work (just in the edge the recevier will get 0 and 1 bits right from cable). When you are in "safe operating zone" (few meters long cables are definately this) then the data will transfer nicely to other end of cable without any alternation no matter if the cable is normal quality or marginally better. So cable differences have practically no difference in normal uses.

All audio and video carrried over HDMI is in digital format. Since it's a digital signal, it will not make ANY difference at all what kind of properties the cable has as long bits get right from one end to other end of cable.

says: "As with many other products, there are better-constructed cables with better materials and better plugs, but this industry that offers a cable for $20 while other company sells a similar application cable for $300, has certainly created a lot of uncertainty among consumers, and when quality in a cable performance is not easy to detect those consumers become skeptical."

Some links:

Is there any difference between a cheap (i.e. $10 HDMI cable) and an expensive (i.e. $150 HDMI cable)?

The Truth About Monster Cable, Part 2 (Verdict: Cheap Cables Keep Up...Usually)

The Truth About Monster Cable - Grand Finale (Part III)

Spend more on Cables?

How do I choose an HDMI Cable?

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And why do you think there would be a difference ?

It's one of the oldest scams in the business. Buy the cheap one. Any

*ultra-minute* difference is going to be inaudible or invisible.

Graham

There's cheapo, industry standard, premium and ABS, for Audiophool Bullshit. Paying for premium cable gets you more rugged connectors, better strain reliefs, and thicker jackets. If you are doing convention and tradeshow work, reconnecting your equipment a dozen times a year, it's worth the price, but you will never see the difference in the signal and the price isn't dramatically higher than standard. $115 for a short HDMI cable puts it solidly in the ABS bin, along with the infamous $480 wooden volume-control knob and those little "cable elevators" that keep the speaker signal from leaking into the floor.

Not always. In fact I've seen the exact reverse on occasions.

Disgusting pieces of crap. You forgot Skakti stones and the Tice Clock btw.

Graham

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Tomi and others, thank you for your message. This is very helpful.

I received my Belkin cables today. They have a warning on them about lead content. Do all HDMI cables have lead content? Should I be concerned about this?

Thanks

Andy

many small multiconductor cables have tinned (solder-plated) conductors. The connectors might even be soldered instead of crimped, but I don't see how the lead could get out unless there was a fire, and then you wouldn't be worrying about traces of lead fumes. Because of the Restrictions on Hazardous Substances laws, we're seeing these warnings (I call 'em "lawyer droppings") all over the place. Any day now I expect to see a notice on a bottle of spring water warning me that the product can be deadly if inhaled.

There are trace amounts of lead in the plastic jacket.

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Graham

My son had the loan of a PS3 a few weeks ago and it came with an HDMI cable (not supplied by Sony). It refused to work at 1080p on my Samsung LCD TV, but was ok at 1080i. I changed cables to one of mine and it was fine at

1080p. The "bad" cable had one of those ferrite noise suppressors on each end (black plastic moulded blobs about 35mm long and 20mm dia).

So all cables are not the same. The ferrite suppressors are of course pretty obvious, and whilst maybe necessary for a unit to pass its C-Tick certification, may cause problems with some TVs.

Barry

I can't see how ferrites can cause signal degradation in an HDMI cable. It's more likely the cable itself was poorly shielded and the ferrites were to mask that.

Bye. Jasen

The ferrites reduce the bandwidth. That would explain it.

That must have been a substandard cable. There are few of those thankfully. One thing for sure though is that you don't have to pay MONSTER prices for good cables.

May I suggest you Google 'Blue Jeans' cables. Quality at a sensible price.

Graham

I agree.

Graham

as I understand it they only reduce the bandwidth of common-mode signals, and that category excludes all the useful signals on an HDMI cable.

Bye. Jasen

In theory, yes; in practice, there will also be some decrease in the differential-mode bandwidth. And the clock rate of

1080p is right at the HDMI 1.2 and earlier upper limit anyway...

And in any event, we don't know that the ferrites are the only difference between thesse cables - they're just the most obvious difference.

Bob M.

Normally I would agree with you but...There have been instances of HDMI cables causing interferrence to Digital terrestrial TV recievers and this has been cured by swapping the HDMI cable for one with presumably better screening. Having said that I've no idea which of the two mentioned has better screening. It might be the cheap one!