OT: warning about 194040 scam

I wouldn't normally send SMSs into competitions but I saw one on the box the other day and having a $49 cap I thought why not, I may as well use the cap. The idea is if you answer a really simple question correctly then you go into a competition. But that's not what happens. If you get the first question right they ask you another and another up to 5 questions. The SMSs cost $2 to both send and receive so by the time you've answered all 5 questions you've already spent $20. And the prizes aren't that great, they give away something like 3 xboxes per week nationally. I only sent the 1 sms and stopped there but now they keep sending me messages every week. At first I though they'd get sick of sending them but they never will because they make $2 every time they send a message. And they send multiple messages at once, they never say everything they need to say in 1 message suprise suprise.

If anyone's got the same problem the solution is to phone 1300 650 521 (local call cost) and tell them that you phoned them immediately after getting the first message to unsubscribe but they failed to unsubscribe you hence you want a refund after the first message. I believe they are one of these companies that rely on people not pushing for a refund so don't argue when you ask for one. You could tell them that you never sent the first message and they'd probably give you a full refund.

Anyway, just thought I'd let some people know. BTW, if anyone want to tell me how stupid I am and how smart they are because they would never enter a "competition" like this don't bother, I'm not interested. I never imagined something that is advertised on the major networks would be so dodgy. I also never imagined that it was possible for a company to charge me for sending an SMS to me. If anyone's wondering how they can do that apparently it's in the fine print on the tele and when you first send them a message you are agreeing to subscribe to a paid service.

Michael

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Michael C
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Interesting technique to make money out of nothing, I wonder if the X-boxes even exist

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Mark Harriss

I suspect they do. I believe they would be making a shitload of money, no point screwing it all up for not giving away 3 xboxes :-)

The other thing I was going to mention was after all this the charges are apparently not included in capped plans, although I don't seem to have been charged any extra. So I might actually end up making money out of it (or at least getting some of my cap back :-).

Michael

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Michael C

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That is correct. It's very fine print, but it is there.

Betcha they catch a lot of kids out.

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Spankalogical Protocol

Yes, an interesting business tactic. Flash up what amounts to a legal contract on TV aimed at children designed purely to suck them into paying for way more than they bargained for. I can't beleive it's a legal business practice. In any case it's highly unethical and TV and Music industries need a big kick up the arse for allowing it.

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Uncle Bully

Apparently you used to need a high def LCD otherwise the fine print was cut off, but they got into some shit over that one.

Yep, I did a bit of a google and it was mainly kids complaining about their prepaid account suddenly being empty.

Michael

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Michael C

That's the other thing I was going to mention, it seems to be highly associated with big brother and australian idol. I'm not 100% certain about BB but the message today definately mentioned aus idol.

Michael

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Michael C

Apparently if you call their helpline and complain in writing, stating that the victim was a child, they will refund all moneys immediately in order to avoid a precedent-setting legal case against them. They are operating on a fine line and don't mind refunding some moneys to keep going...

-Andrew M

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Andrew M

The warning sign is that the questions are ridiculously easy to answer - no way any prizes are going to given for answering such simple questions

David - who w> I wouldn't normally send SMSs into competitions but I saw one on the box the

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quietguy

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That's not a warning sign at all. Lots of competitions have rediculously easy questions to answer. They don't claim you win by getting the q right, just that you get entered in the draw.

Michaek

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Michael C

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AND the Government for refusing to outlaw the practice! I certainly wouldn't fall for it, but I can sure see how kids could be easily suckered in. What a great business model! I'd put them all up against a wall with a blindfold :-)

MrT.

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Mr.T

Why waste the blindfolds? Let them know what's about to happen. ;-)

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Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
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Michael A. Terrell

the ridiculously easy questions are often for legal requirrements.

if no question is asked it's a lottery but if there's a question there's an demonstration of skill required and it's a competition....

Bye. Jasen

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Jasen Betts

People who send SMS's to enter competitions, or vote for TV shows are morons. They do not deserve one millisecond of compassion.

Trevor Wilson

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trevor

Certainly, but the company doesn't deserve to make 1 cent off this crap either... it should be outlawed.

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Richard Kelly

There's no difference. Anyone over the age of ten years know that sending an SMS to a contest, TV station, ring tone, nude photo service, etc, will cost money. All we are arguing about is how much money. If a company does not allow some kind of free access (web, freemail, etc) then none of us should bother. Eventually, the morons will wake up and discover what an incredible rort SMS messaging actually is.

'Till then, the morons get what they deserve.

Trevor Wilson (shakes head, desparing of how many idiots live in this nation)

PS: It makes one wonder about these polls which various TV staions regularly conduct. AFAICT, the results just indicate the stupidity of one side, vs. the other side. IOW: Do all the dumb people vote, whilst those of us with a moderate degree of intelligence simply refuse to fill the coffers of large media organisations? Thus, are we actually too intelligent to be heard?

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trevor

Shouldn't the government help said morons by protecting them from these scams in the first place? There are plenty of people and companies willing to take a moron's money - maybe we should make them work a bit harder for it?

I would say they out number us... which is scary.

Agreed.

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Richard Kelly

Why do you think they do it? Hint: They're in business.

If you're too keen to partake before you read the fine print, that's you're problem.

-- Regards, Noddy.

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Noddy

Too "intelligent" to have a voice and not use it? I would probably use a word based on intellect as this is something that we are taught. You don't have to rely on "large media organisations" to speak up or get your message across though it helps if you have something to say. :-P

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Peter

I suspect you're one of those people who needs to find other's stupid in order to feel better about yourself.

I deserve to be parted with my $2 I agree. I do not deserve to be charged $4 every week for the rest of my life for sending one sms. Who's going to expect to be charge $2 for receiving calls.

Are you telling me you've never done anything stupid in your life? I admit I was stupid to send the SMS but on the scale of stupid things that a person could do this is right down at the low end. I've actually sent a couple before to reputable companies from a competition on an icecream pack. It was

55c to enter but seeing I was on a cap it's not costing me anything so why not. I sent them an sms, got charged my 55c and they sent a reply back saying I didn't win and that was the end of it. I don't see how that's stupid, considering it didn't cost me anything it's actually a smart thing to do :-)

You should chill out a bit.

Michael

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Michael C

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