What is an EMF meter really for?

Jun 01, 2022 Last reply: 4 years ago 15 Replies

I came across an article about a cattle mutilation and the guy was using an EMF meter to look for aliens or something. His meter detected them, no surprise.



I thought the EMF meter was invented by the movie industry, but apparently they are real. Google tells me they are widely purchased by ghost hunters. shudder! Not much hope for humanity. But I digress.



So is there an actual use for one, maybe in electronics engineering or something? I haven't seen one discussed in this group, I did search.



What do they do, and why?


I did a search and found loads of information. Try it !

KenW

What is your definition of "real"? Would anything sold by Gwyneth Paltrow qualify? There are reasons for wanting to know what the electric field strength is...

EMF (electro-magnetic field) can be anything from 60 Hz power line radiation, to microwave emissions. The real EMF meters were designed to help measure specific EMF fields for measuring things like cell phone SAR (specific absorption rate), unwanted emissions for FCC type certification, radio/TV broadcast station antenna pattern, EMC (electromagnetic compatibility) testing, and personal RF safety such as might be encountered when working on a radio tower. Some typical applications:

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Typical equipment:

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Personal EMF meters:
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The low cost junk sold online is at best a crude imitation of a proper EMF meter mostly because they do not produce meaningful measurements that can be useful for design, installation, testing, and verification.

If you purchased a junk EMF meter like this:

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to find ghosts or determine if something might fry your brain, your brain is already fried. I have to confess that I bought one of these and found it useful for finding 60 Hz power line radiation but not much else. The sensitivity decreases rapidly with increasing RF frequency.

Good luck

I won't claim a fresh brain but the advertising hype on these products did peg my BS meter.

On the other hand, at about $20 for some of the cheapies, would they be useful to avoid hitting a power line drilling through a wall or digging in the garden? You mentioned 60 Hz power line radiation.

Well, maybe a baked brain.

No. The AC wiring in the wall is too narrow and probably too far away for the junk EMF meter to accurately locate it.

I have one of these, which has an AC wiring locator feature:

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The current version is probably better:
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$55. This older one should work and is cheaper:
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$30. I also borrow an AC circuit tracer and circuit breaker tracer from the neighborhood electrician as needed:
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You probably won't like the price. $1,800 list.

One catch. These tend to use 9V batteries, which are becoming rather expensive. I've been switching to rechargeable LiIon 9V batteries:

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About $5/ea, which is the same as alkaline but is rechargeable and I don't have to worry much about devices that draw current even when turned off.

In snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com Jeff Liebermann snipped-for-privacy@cruzio.com writes: [snip]

60 Hz? Newbie. 25 CPS is the way to go

I hope you're not one of the old fashioned types who still hang on to pi - surely you've converted to tau like all the cool people?

At the simple end, a Field Strength Meter- antenna, diode, meter; at 60Hz you'd need a big antenna, probably a coil.

Hardly. I prefer my power delivered as DC as Edison and the other patriarchs of power transmission intended it. For a time (early

1970's), I had wall outlets that delivered 12V DC[1]. Before cheap DC to AC inverters were available, using 12V DC was quite common in recreational vehicles. Fortunately, some organizations are re-discovering the benefits of DC power:
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such as no electromagnetic radiation. [1] The commodity wall outlets worked as long as I didn't plug/unplug the power cord while DC current was flowing. If I forgot, the current would arc weld the power plug to the receptacle. Running AC wall switches on DC had the same problem. DC connectors and switches were too expensive, so I gave up.

On your second link it seems that DC stands for "district of Colombia" :-)

Jeff:

Either you have a rare sense of humor, or you are genuinely certifiable - or, hopefully, both.

Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA

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Parts of NYC had DC utility power as late as the 1990's. While Con Ed stopped new hookups 1960ish, they kept the legacy wiring live a lot longer.

My 6 story apartment building with 28 apartments had regular AC, but _ALSO_ had DC coming in for the elevator (a pretty common situation) and ... had an "unmetered" (flat rate) separate low current feed dedicated for the fire alarm.

A friend of mine lived in a similar apartment building on 110th and Columbus Ave 1975ish, and believe it or not... the rooms there had standard outlets, some of which provided, sit down for this... 120V **DC**. Yes, identical.

We figured it was cheaper for the landlord to pay off the building inspectors than to rewire...

Note that since we're talking 1975 (and earlier), people had many appliances (basically incandescent lamps) which would, indeed, work ok. But don't plug in your record player.

Would the liquid mercury based wall swiches (remember them?) have worked ok?

You're right. I screwed up. I thought they were installing an underground DC power line. Sorry.

Amazing. I would have thought that 120V DC would have disappeared long ago. I did try 120VDC on my house electrical system to see what would happen. It was similar to the 12VDC arcing and contact welding that I experiences with 12VDC. I also got a few shocks. 120VDC was quite different from a 120VAC shock. I think I may have pulled some ligaments or tendons from the rapid muscle contraction.

I don't know. I didn't have any mercury switches and none of the stores had them for sale. I would guess(tm) that the major problem was the glass bulb exploding from something that produces hot gases from the arcing. No oxygen, therefore no combustion or burning. With just mercury and some kind of contacts, there's nothing that can burn, so I guess it might be safe. However, I would be worried if vaporized mercury could sustain an arc across the contacts, which would not be a good thing. Probably a bad idea.

I thought that mercury had been banned in consumer products in the

1960's, but now I find that it wasn't until 2001 that California finally banned mercury switches and thermostats: "DTSC SB 633: California’s Mercury Reduction Act of 2001"
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The phone company in NYC had 105v 20cps for ring tone sent to feeds at least till 1973 when I quit. Probably for old switchboards and pbx's. I got zapped a few times in backyards testing phone troubles. IT WAS HOT !!

KenW

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