Copper-constantan thermocouple.

Mar 04, 2026 Last reply: 4 months ago 3 Replies

Anyone worked with copper-constantan thermouples? How are the two wires joined?



A dry bath heats a block of aluminum which has holes to receive test tubes. Temperature is controlled by a Cal Controls # 3200. The heating pad heats when power is applied but the relay in the 3200 never switches. So I wonder whether the fault is in the 3200 or the thermocouple.



Can heat the thermocouple and measure voltage across the two wires.

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Not sure a common multimeter has the precision to detect a faulty thermocouple.



Ideas?



Thx, ... P.


Hi Peter,

understandung the Seebeckeffect helps to understand that the junction only have to be electric conductive. all other doesn't matter.

Marte

Good thermocouples use special cables that have wires made of copper and constantan, to avoid having extra joints in the way to the electronics. You don't need to weld them, even twisting together the wires of the cable creates a sensor, and it works.

Some multimeters have a scale to measure temps with a thermocouple, and the proper socket.

Notice that the setup actually has two joints, one at the sensor and another (same loop) at the electronics board. The thing measures temperature differences between the two joints, so there is another type of sensor (ex.: thermistor) near the second joint. Think that the constantan wire has to join the electronic board metals at some point.

My experience (old) is with sensors and measurements. The setup used in heaters is different.

Sometimes we had failures and the answer was to replace sensor or cables. We did not study why they failed. We just tried a spare sensor, and if it worked, problem solved. We had a bunch of them. Once we had the vendor give us a lecture :-)

Seen in marketing publications but don't have one.

In the setup here, the second connection would be inside the Cal Controls 3200 which I haven't opened. Wikipedia refers to the "reference junction".

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A salvaged 3200 isn't expensive. I think of buying one, comparing observations and re-evaluating.

Thanks, ... P.

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