AVR-GCC

Apr 16, 2005 46 Replies
ðÒÉ×ÅÔ Alexey!

22 Apr 05 10:31, Alexey Boyko ÐÉÓÁÌ Vladimir Vassilevsky:

AB> ÷ avr-gcc ÍÏÖÎÏ ÐÒÉÃÅÐÉÔØ ÈÕËÉ. HÁÐÉÓÁÔØ ÆÕÎËÃÉÀ É ÐÏÍÅÓÔÉÔØ ÅÅ × AB> ÓÅËÃÉÀ Ó ÏÐÒÅÄÅÌÅÎÎÙÍ ÉÍÅÎÅÍ.

üÔÉ ×ÅÝÉ ÏÎÉ ÓÌÉÛËÏÍ ÕÖ ÞÁÓÔÏ ÌÀÂÑÔ ÍÅÎÑÔØ, ÞÔÏ ÍÎÅ ÓÉÌØÎÏ ÎÅ ÎÒÁ×ÉÔÓÑ. þÔÏ × avr-libc, ÞÔÏ × avr-gcc ÐÅÒÉÏÄÉÞÅÓËÉ ×ÙÌÅÚÁÀÔ ÔÁËÉÅ "ÎÏ×ÛÅÓÔ×Á", ÉÚ-ÚÁ ËÏÔÏÒÙÈ ÕÖÅ ÒÁÎÅÅ ÏÔÌÁÖÅÎÎÙÊ É ÓÄÁÎÎÙÊ × ÁÒÈÉ× ÐÒÏÅËÔ ÍÏÖÅÔ ÐÒÏÓÔÏ ÐÅÒÅÓÔÁÔØ ÓÏÂÉÒÁÔØÓÑ. :( ÷ÓÅÇÏ ÎÁÉÌÕÞÛÅÇÏ, [Team PCAD 2000] áÌÅËÓÅÊ í. ... ÷ ÇÌÁ×ÎÏÊ ÒÏÌÉ - óÉÌØ×ÅÓÔÒ Ó ÔÁÌÏÎÏÍ.
ðÒÉ×ÅÔ Alexey!

22 Apr 05 10:23, Alexey Boyko ÐÉÓÁÌ Alex Mogilnikov:

AB>>> ôÏ ÅÓÔØ? ôÙ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÕÅÛØ Ó×ÏÊ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ? AM>> äÁ.

AB> á ÐÏÞÅÍÕ?

ëÏÎËÒÅÔÎÏ ÄÌÑ ÓÁÂÖÁ? ëÏÇÄÁ-ÔÏ ÄÅÌÁÌ Ó×ÏÊ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÎÁÐÒÉÍÅÒ ÉÚ-ÚÁ ÏÓÏÂÅÎÎÏÓÔÅÊ ÏÒÇÁÎÉÚÁÃÉÉ ×ÎÅÛÎÅÊ ÐÁÍÑÔÉ (ÎÁÄÏ ÂÙÌÏ ÞÔÏ-ÔÏ ×ÙÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ ÎÁ ÐÏÒÔ ÄÏ ÎÁÞÁÌÁ ÒÁÂÏÔÙ Ó ïúõ). HÁ×ÅÒÎÏÅ ÅÝÅ ÐÒÉÞÉÎÙ ÂÙÌÉ, ÓÅÊÞÁÓ ÎÅ ÐÏÍÎÀ. ðÒÏÓÔÏ Ó ÔÅÈ ÐÏÒ × ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÙÈ ÍÎÏÊ ÐÒÏÅËÔÁÈ ÔÁË "ÀÚÅÒÓËÉÅ" ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÙ É ÉÄÕÔ. é ×ÏÔ "ÞÕÖÉÅ" ÐÒÏÅËÔÙ ÐÒÉÎÉÍÁÀ - ÔÁÍ ÔÏÖÅ Ó×ÏÉ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÙ. óÐÅÃÉÁÌØÎÏ ÎÅ ÉÎÔÅÒÅÓÏ×ÁÌÓÑ ÐÏÞÅÍÕ. ÷ÓÅÇÏ ÎÁÉÌÕÞÛÅÇÏ, [Team PCAD 2000] áÌÅËÓÅÊ í. ... ðÉÒÏÖÏË ÓÙÒÏÊ Ó ÓÙÒÏÍ.

Fri Apr 22 2005 00:57, Alexey V Bugrov wrote to Yuriy K:

AVB>>> óÔÁÎÄÁÒÔ ÑÚÙËÁ ÃÅ ÔÒÅÂÕÅÔ ÏÂÎÕÌÅÎÉÑ ÎÅÉÎÉÃÉÁÌÉÚÉÒÏ×ÁÎÎÙÈ AVB>>> ÇÌÏÂÁÌØÎÙÈ ÐÅÒÅÍÅÎÎÙÈ. YK>> 6.7.8 Initialization AVB> áÆÉÇÅÔØ. üÔÏ ×ÈÏÄÉÔ × ÐÒÏÔÉ×ÏÒÅÞÉÅ Ó ÍÏÉÍÉ ÓÌÏ×ÁÍÉ,

HÅÔ, ËÏÎÅÞÎÏ. ðÒÏÓÔÏ ×ÍÅÓÔÏ "óÔÁÎÄÁÒÔ ÑÚÙËÁ ÃÅ ÔÒÅÂÕÅÔ ..." Ñ ÐÒÏÞÉÔÁÌ "óÔÁÎÄÁÒÔ ÑÚÙËÁ ÎÅ ÔÒÅÂÕÅÔ...". ïÞÅÎØ ÕÄÉ×ÉÌÓÑ... :-))

AVB>>> ÷ÉÄÅÎÎÙÅ ÍÎÏÀ ËÏÍÐÉÌÑÔÏÒÙ YK>> ëÁËÉÅ ÉÍÅÎÎÏ ËÏÍÐÉÌÑÔÏÒÙ ÔÙ ×ÉÄÅÌ?

AVB> Microchip C18,

óÍ. ÎÉÖÅ

AVB> IAREW18 - ÔÏÞÎÏ ÏÂÎÕÌÑÀÔ,

ðÒÉÛÌÉ ÓÀÄÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ ËÏÄ, ÐÏÓÍÏÔÒÉÍ.

IAR EWAVR, EW6812, Cosmic 6808 ÏÂÎÕÌÑÀÔ _ÔÏÌØËÏ_ ÓÔÁÔÉÞÅÓËÉÅ ÐÅÒÅÍÅÎÎÙÅ.

YK>> þÔÏ ÚÁ ËÏÍÐÉÌÑÔÏÒ ÇÅÎÅÒÉÔ _ÔÁËÏÅ_?

AVB> Microchip c18. ÷Ï-ÐÅÒ×ÙÈ ÏÎ ÜÔÏ ÎÅ ÇÅÎÅÒÉÔ. üÔÏ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ × ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÅ.

äÌÑ Microchip C18 v2.40 ÅÓÔØ ÔÒÉ ÓÔÁÎÄÁÒÔÎÙÈ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ. c018_e.c - ÎÅ ÉÎÉÃÉÁÌÉÚÉÒÕÅÔ ÎÉÞÅÇÏ c018i_e.c - + ÉÎÉÃÉÁÌÉÚÉÒÕÅÔ/ÏÞÉÝÁÅÔ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÓÔÁÔÉÞÅÓËÉÅ ÐÅÒÅÍÅÎÎÙÅ c018iz_e.c - + ÏÂÎÕÌÑÅÔ ×ÓÀ ÐÁÍÑÔØ éÚÕÞÁÊÔÅ ÍÁÔÞÁÓÔØ. :-))

AVB> óÄÅÌÁÎÏ ÔÁË AVB> ÒÏ×ÎÏ ÐÏ ÏÄÎÏÊ ÐÒÉÞÉÎÅ - × ÔÁÂÌÉÃÕ ÉÎÉÃÉÁÌÉÚÁÃÉÉ ÐÏÐÁÄÕÔ ÔÏÌØËÏ Ñ×ÎÏ AVB> ÉÎÉÃÉÁÌÉÚÉÒÏ×ÁÎÎÙÅ ÏÂßÅÔËÙ - ÏÞÅÎØ ÓÕÝÅÓÔ×ÅÎÎÁÑ ÜËÏÎÏÍÉÑ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÎÏÊ AVB> ÐÁÍÑÔÉ.

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AVB> HÅ "×", Á ÐÅÒÅÄ.

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AVB> ôÏÔ ÖÅ IAR ÐÒÅÄÕÓÍÁÔÒÉ×ÁÅÔ ÉÚ Ó×ÏÅÇÏ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ×ÙÚÏ× AVB> ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔÅÌØÓËÏÊ __low_level_init(void),

÷ÓÔÁר ×ÙÚÏ× × ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ.

YK>> ðÒÅËÒÁÓÎÏ ÄÅÌÁÅÔÓÑ × ÏÓÎÏ×ÎÏÊ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÅ.

AVB> ôÁË ÖÅ ËÁË ÕÖÅ ÎÉÞÅÇÏ ÎÅ ÏÓÔÁÌÏÓØ ÏÔ ÓÏÄÅÒÖÉÍÏÇÏ ÏÚÕ.

éÚÕÞÁÊÔÅ ÍÁÔÞÁÓÔØ. :-)

AVB>>> äÁ ÐÒÏÓÔÏ ÈÏÞÕ ÎÁ ×ÅËÔÏÒ ÒÅÓÅÔÁ ÐÏ×ÅÓÉÔØ ÏÂÒÁÂÏÔÞÉË AVB>>> ÎÅÍÁÓËÉÒÕÅÍÏÇÏ ÐÒÅÒÙ×ÁÎÉÑ ÏÔ ÐÅÒÅÆÅÒÉÉ.

YK>> HÕ ÄÁ, ÅÓÔØ ÒÁÚÎÙÅ ÓÐÏÓÏÂÙ ×ÙÒÙ×ÁÎÉÑ ÇÌÁÎÄ...

AVB> üÔÏ ×ÓÅÇÏ ÌÉÛØ ×ÁÛÉ ÐÒÅÄÒÁÓÓÕÄËÉ.

üÔÏ ÐÌÏÈÏÊ ÓÔÉÌØ ÐÉÓÁÎÉÑ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍ.

P.S. óÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÉÎÏÇÄÁ ÍÏÖÎÏ É ÎÕÖÎÏ ÍÅÎÑÔØ. HÏ ÔÏÌØËÏ × ÔÏÍ ÓÌÕÞÁÅ, ÅÓÌÉ ÞÔÏ-ÔÏ _ÁÂÓÏÌÀÔÎÏ_ÎÅ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ_ ÓÄÅÌÁÔØ ÄÒÕÇÉÍÉ ÓÐÏÓÏÂÁÍÉ.

P.P.S. ñ ×ÉÄÅÌ ÏÞÅÎØ ×ÅÓÅÌÙÅ ÇÒÁÂÌÉ ÐÏÓÌÅ ÌÀÂÉÔÅÌÅÊ ÍÅÎÑÔØ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ...

WBR, Yuriy.

ðÒÉ×ÅÔ Alexey!

22 Apr 05 11:55, Alexey Boyko ÐÉÓÁÌ Alex Mogilnikov:

AM>> ðÏÞÔÉ ×ÓÅÇÄÁ ÍÎÅ ÔÁÍ ÔÒÅÂÕÅÔÓÑ ÉÎÉÃÉÁÌÉÚÉÒÏ×ÁÔØ ÐÅÒÉÆÅÒÉÀ. AM>> éÎÏÇÄÁ ÔÁÍ ÖÅ ÔÒÅÂÕÅÔÓÑ ÉÎÉÃÉÁÌÉÚÉÒÏ×ÁÔØ ÑÄÒÏ ïó.

AB> úÁÐÉÈÎÉ Ó×ÏÀ ÆÕÎËÃÉÀ × ÏÄÉÎ ÉÚ ÓÅÇÍÅÎÔÏ×: AB> .init1/.init3/.init5/.init7/.init8 (ÔÏÌØËÏ naked ţ)

HÁ ÔÁËÉÅ ËÕÓÏÞËÉ ÂÉÂÌÉÏÔÅÞÎÙÊ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÓÔÁÌ ÒÁÚÂÉÔ ÏÔÎÏÓÉÔÅÌØÎÏ ÎÅÄÁ×ÎÏ. ëÏÇÄÁ Ñ ÎÁÞÉÎÁÌ Ó×ÏÉ ÐÒÏÅËÔÙ, ÂÉÂÌÉÏÔÅÞÎÙÊ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÂÙÌ ÏÄÎÏÊ ÓÅËÃÉÅÊ .init É ×ÓÔÁ×ÉÔØ ÞÔÏ-ÔÏ Ó×ÏÅ × ÅÇÏ ÓÅÒÅÄÉÎÕ ÂÙÌÏ ÎÅ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ. üÔÏ, ËÓÔÁÔÉ, ÐÏ ÐÏ×ÏÄÕ ÐÏÓÔÏÑÎÎÏÇÏ ÚÕÄÁ ÞÔÏ-ÌÉÂÏ ÐÏÍÅÎÑÔØ Õ Á×ÔÏÒÏ× avr-libc. åÓÌÉ ÂÙ Ñ ÉÓÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÌ ÂÉÂÌÉÏÔÅÞÎÙÊ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ, Ó ÎÏ×ÏÊ ×ÅÒÓÉÅÊ ÂÉÂÌÉÏÔÅËÉ ÐÒÏÅËÔÙ ÐÅÒÅÓÔÁÌÉ ÂÙ ÓÏÂÉÒÁÔØÓÑ, ÉÂÏ × ÌÉÎËÅÒÎÏÍ ÓËÒÉÐÔÅ ÎÉËÁËÉÈ .init1 - .init8 ÎÅÔ, Á ÅÓÔØ ÐÒÏÓÔÏ .init. ôÏ, ÞÔÏ ÚÁ ÓÒÁ×ÎÉÔÅÌØÎÏ ËÏÒÏÔËÏÅ ×ÒÅÍÑ ÜÔÁ ÂÉÂÌÉÏÔÅËÁ ÕÖÅ ÎÅ ÐÅÒ×ÙÊ ÒÁÚ ÐÒÅÔÅÒÐÅ×ÁÅÔ ÒÅÏÒÇÁÎÉÚÁÃÉÀ Ó ÐÏÔÅÒÅÊ ÓÏ×ÍÅÓÔÉÍÏÓÔÉ Ó ÐÒÅÄÙÄÕÝÉÍÉ ×ÅÒÓÉÑÍÉ, ÏÔÂÉ×ÁÅÔ ×ÓÑËÏÅ ÖÅÌÁÎÉÅ ÅÊ ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔÓØÑ. âÌÁÇÏ, ÐÒÏÅËÔÙ ÄÌÑ avr ÎÅÂÏÌØÛÉÅ. õ ÍÅÎÑ ÏÎÉ ÔÉÐÉÞÎÏ ÌÉÎËÕÀÔÓÑ Ó -nostartfiles -nostdlibs.

ëÓÔÁÔÉ, ËÏÇÄÁ-ÔÏ ÄÁ×ÎÏ × ÜÔÏÊ ÖÅ ÜÈÅ ÍÎÅ ËÔÏ-ÔÏ ÇÏ×ÏÒÉÌ, ÞÔÏ ÔÉÐÉÞÎÙÍ Ñ×ÌÑÅÔÓÑ ËÁË ÒÁÚ ÐÉÓÁÔØ Ó×ÏÊ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÐÏÄ Ó×ÏÀ ÁÐÐÁÒÁÔÎÕÀ ÐÌÁÔÆÏÒÍÕ, ÞÔÏ Ñ Ó ÔÅÈ ÐÏÒ É ÄÅÌÁÀ. ÷ÓÅÇÏ ÎÁÉÌÕÞÛÅÇÏ, [Team PCAD 2000] áÌÅËÓÅÊ í. ... óÅ×ÅÒÏ-ëÁ×ËÁÚÓËÁÑ ÍÅÖÒÅÇÉÏÎÁÌØÎÁÑ ÁÓÓÏÃÉÁÃÉÑ ÁÎÏÎÉÍÎÙÈ ÓÏÉÓËÁÔÅÌÅÊ.

Fri Apr 22 2005 00:57, Alexey V Bugrov wrote to Yuriy K:

YK>>>> C ËÁËÏÊ ÒÁÄÏÓÔÉ _×ÓÑ_ ÐÁÍÑÔØ ÐÏÞÉÝÅÎÁ É ÐÒÏÉÎÉÃÉÁÌÉÚÉÒÏ×ÁÎÁ?

AVB> Microchip C18, IAREW18 - ÔÏÞÎÏ ÏÂÎÕÌÑÀÔ

ðÒÏ ó18 Ñ ÕÖÅ ÐÉÓÁÌ. IAREW18 ÔÏÖÅ ÏÂÎÕÌÑÅÔ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÔÏ, ÞÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ. éÚÕÞÁÊÔÅ ÍÁÔÞÁÓÔØ (cstartup.s49).

WBR, Yuriy

Hi Yuriy, hope you are having a nice day!

22 áÐÒ 05, Yuriy K wrote to Alexey V Bugrov:

AVB>> Microchip c18. ÷Ï-ÐÅÒ×ÙÈ ÏÎ ÜÔÏ ÎÅ ÇÅÎÅÒÉÔ. üÔÏ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ × AVB>> ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÅ. YK> äÌÑ Microchip C18 v2.40 ÅÓÔØ ÔÒÉ ÓÔÁÎÄÁÒÔÎÙÈ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ. YK> c018_e.c - ÎÅ ÉÎÉÃÉÁÌÉÚÉÒÕÅÔ ÎÉÞÅÇÏ YK> c018i_e.c - + ÉÎÉÃÉÁÌÉÚÉÒÕÅÔ/ÏÞÉÝÁÅÔ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÓÔÁÔÉÞÅÓËÉÅ ÐÅÒÅÍÅÎÎÙÅ YK> c018iz_e.c - + ÏÂÎÕÌÑÅÔ ×ÓÀ ÐÁÍÑÔØ

YK> éÚÕÞÁÊÔÅ ÍÁÔÞÁÓÔØ. :-))

çÙ. óÁÍ ÉÚÕÞÁÊ. ãÉÔÁÔÁ ÉÚ ÄÏËÉ:

The ANSI standard requires that all objects with static storage duration that are not initialized explicitly are set to zero. With both the c018.o/c018_e.o and c018i.o/c018i_e.o startup code modules, this requirement is not met. A third type of startup module, c018iz.o and c018iz_e.o, is provided to meet this requirement. If this startup code module is linked with the application, then, in addition to initializing idata sections, all objects with static storage duration that are not initialized explicitly are set to zero.

äÁ É ÇÌÁÚÁÍÉ Ñ ÓÍÏÔÒÅÌ Ñ ÓÏÄÅÒÖÉÍÏÅ ÓÅËÃÉÉ .cinit

AVB>> ôÏÔ ÖÅ IAR ÐÒÅÄÕÓÍÁÔÒÉ×ÁÅÔ ÉÚ Ó×ÏÅÇÏ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ×ÙÚÏ× AVB>> ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔÅÌØÓËÏÊ __low_level_init(void), YK> ÷ÓÔÁר ×ÙÚÏ× × ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ.

üÔÏ ÕÖÅ ÚÁÍÅÎÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ.

AVB>> ôÁË ÖÅ ËÁË ÕÖÅ ÎÉÞÅÇÏ ÎÅ ÏÓÔÁÌÏÓØ ÏÔ ÓÏÄÅÒÖÉÍÏÇÏ ÏÚÕ. YK> éÚÕÞÁÊÔÅ ÍÁÔÞÁÓÔØ. :-)

÷É ÔÁËÉ ÂÕÄÅÔÅ ÕÞÉÔØ ÎÁÓ ËÏÍÍÜÒÃÉÉ? (Ó) :)

AVB>> üÔÏ ×ÓÅÇÏ ÌÉÛØ ×ÁÛÉ ÐÒÅÄÒÁÓÓÕÄËÉ. YK> üÔÏ ÐÌÏÈÏÊ ÓÔÉÌØ ÐÉÓÁÎÉÑ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍ.

ðÏÞÅÍÕ? åÓÌÉ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ Ó ÕÍÏÍ É ÚÎÁÎÉÅÍ ÐÒÅÄÍÅÔÁ, ÔÏ ×ÓÅ ×ÐÏÌÎÅ ËÒÁÓÉ×Ï É ÐÕÛÉÓÔÏ.

YK> P.S. óÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÉÎÏÇÄÁ ÍÏÖÎÏ É ÎÕÖÎÏ ÍÅÎÑÔØ. HÏ ÔÏÌØËÏ × ÔÏÍ ÓÌÕÞÁÅ, ÅÓÌÉ YK> ÞÔÏ-ÔÏ _ÁÂÓÏÌÀÔÎÏ_ÎÅ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ_ ÓÄÅÌÁÔØ ÄÒÕÇÉÍÉ ÓÐÏÓÏÂÁÍÉ.

óÁÍ ÐÒÏ ÇÌÁÎÄÙ ÇÏ×ÏÒÉÌ. éÎÏÇÄÁ ÐÒÏÝÅ ÐÏÍÅÎÑÔØ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ, ÞÅÍ ÉÓËÁÔØ ÎÅÏÞÉ×ÉÄÎÙÅ ÐÕÔÉ ÒÅÛÅÎÉÑ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÙ.

YK> P.P.S. ñ ×ÉÄÅÌ ÏÞÅÎØ ×ÅÓÅÌÙÅ ÇÒÁÂÌÉ ÐÏÓÌÅ ÌÀÂÉÔÅÌÅÊ ÍÅÎÑÔØ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ...

"ðÏÄ ÈÏÒÏÛÕÀ ÚÁËÕÓØ, ÄÁ ÎÁÈÁÌÑ×Õ... ÍÏÖÎÏ ÄÏ ÂÅÓËÏÎÅÞÎÏÓÔÉ" (Ó) ÐÏÐ. çÒÁÂÌÉ ÂÙ×ÁÀÔ ÒÁÚÎÙÅ. ïÓÏÂÅÎÎÏ ÐÏÓÌÅ "ÌÀÂÉÔÅÌÅÊ". HÅÆÉÇ ÌÀÂÉÔÅÌÅÊ ÄÏÐÕÓËÁÔØ ÄÏ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÑ, ÜÔÉÍ ÄÏÌÖÎÙ ÚÁÎÉÍÁÔØÓÑ ÐÒÏÆÉ.

WBR, AVB

Hi Yuriy, hope you are having a nice day!

23 áÐÒ 05, Yuriy K wrote to Alexey V Bugrov:

AVB>> Microchip C18, IAREW18 - ÔÏÞÎÏ ÏÂÎÕÌÑÀÔ YK> ðÒÏ ó18 Ñ ÕÖÅ ÐÉÓÁÌ. YK> IAREW18 ÔÏÖÅ ÏÂÎÕÌÑÅÔ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÔÏ, ÞÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ. éÚÕÞÁÊÔÅ ÍÁÔÞÁÓÔØ YK> (cstartup.s49).

óÍÏÔÒÅÌ. þÉÓÔÉÔÓÑ ×ÓÑ ÓÅËÃÉÑ ÐÅÒÅÄ ÉÎÉÃÉÁÌÉÚÁÃÉÅÊ.

WBR, AVB

Hello, Alexey!

AVB>>> ÷ÉÄÅÎÎÙÅ ÍÎÏÀ ËÏÍÐÉÌÑÔÏÒÙ YK>> ëÁËÉÅ ÉÍÅÎÎÏ ËÏÍÐÉÌÑÔÏÒÙ ÔÙ ×ÉÄÅÌ?

AV> Microchip C18, IAREW18 - ÔÏÞÎÏ ÏÂÎÕÌÑÀÔ, ÐÒÏ ÈÁÊÔÅË ÎÅ Õ×ÅÒÅÎ, ÎÏ AV> ËÁÖÅÔÓÑ ÔÏÖÅ.

÷ èÁÊÔÅÞÅ: persistant - É ÕÖÅ ÎÉËÔÏ ÎÉËÏÇÏ ÎÅ ÏÂÎÕÌÑÅÔ.

With best regards, Alex Torres.

2:461/28, E-mail: snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com
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Sun Apr 24 2005 20:02, Alexey V Bugrov wrote to Yuriy K:

AVB>>> Microchip C18, IAREW18 - ÔÏÞÎÏ ÏÂÎÕÌÑÀÔ YK>> ðÒÏ ó18 Ñ ÕÖÅ ÐÉÓÁÌ. YK>> IAREW18 ÔÏÖÅ ÏÂÎÕÌÑÅÔ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÔÏ, ÞÔÏ ÎÁÄÏ. éÚÕÞÁÊÔÅ ÍÁÔÞÁÓÔØ YK>> (cstartup.s49).

AVB> óÍÏÔÒÅÌ. þÉÓÔÉÔÓÑ ×ÓÑ ÓÅËÃÉÑ ÐÅÒÅÄ ÉÎÉÃÉÁÌÉÚÁÃÉÅÊ.

ðÏÐÒÏÂÕÊ ÅÝÅ ÒÁÚ. þÉÓÔÑÔÓÑ ÔÏÌØËÏ ÓÅÇÍÅÎÔÙ BANK0_Z, BANK1_Z,... ÅÓÌÉ ÏÎÉ ÅÓÔØ, Á ÎÅ ×ÓÑ ÐÁÍÑÔØ.

cstartup.s49 ;--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ; Segment initialization: ; ; x_Z "uninitialized data" are filled with zero ; x_ID is copied to x_I ... ; ;--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ;--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ; Segment initialization: BANKX_Z ; This segment will only be called if any BANKX_Z segment has been generated ; by the C-Compiler. It assumes that the size of the segment is > 0 ;---------------------------------------------------------------------------

MODULE __INIT_BANKN_Z __RTModel RSEG BANKN_Z:NEARDATA(0) RSEG ICODE:CODE:NOROOT(1) PUBLIC __INIT_BANKN_Z

__INIT_BANKN_Z: __ClearSegment BANKN_Z ENDMOD

MODULE __INIT_BANK0_Z __RTModel RSEG BANK0_Z:NEARDATA(0) RSEG ICODE:CODE:NOROOT(1) PUBLIC __INIT_BANK0_Z

__INIT_BANK0_Z: __ClearSegment BANK0_Z ENDMOD

MODULE __INIT_BANK1_Z __RTModel RSEG BANK1_Z:NEARDATA(0) RSEG ICODE:CODE:NOROOT(1) PUBLIC __INIT_BANK1_Z

... ;--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ;--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ;---------------------------------------------------------------------------

;--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ; ; Macro: __ClearSegment ; ; Description: Initializes the segment to zero ; ;--------------------------------------------------------------------------- ; ; Input: SegmentName ; ; Usage: __ClearSegment BANK0_Z ; ;---------------------------------------------------------------------------

__ClearSegment MACRO LOCAL LOOP ; Initialize FSR0 with start of BANKN_Z #ifdef _DISABLE_LFSR MOVLW LOW(SFB \1) MOVWF FSR0L MOVLW HIGH(SFB \1) MOVWF FSR0H #else LFSR 0,SFB \1 #endif MOVLW SIZEOF \1 ; Get size of \1 segment LOOP: CLRF POSTINC0,0 DECFSZ WREG,1,0 BRA LOOP ENDM ;---------------------------------------------------------------------------

WBR, Yuriy

Sun Apr 24 2005 19:54, Alexey V Bugrov wrote to Yuriy K:

AVB>>> Microchip c18. ÷Ï-ÐÅÒ×ÙÈ ÏÎ ÜÔÏ ÎÅ ÇÅÎÅÒÉÔ. üÔÏ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ × AVB>>> ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÅ.

AVB> The ANSI standard requires that all objects with static storage duration AVB> that are not initialized explicitly are set to zero. With both the AVB> c018.o/c018_e.o and c018i.o/c018i_e.o startup code modules, this AVB> requirement is not met. A third type of startup module, c018iz.o and AVB> c018iz_e.o, is provided to meet this requirement. AVB> If this startup code module is linked with the application, then, in AVB> addition to initializing idata sections, all objects with static storage AVB> duration that are not initialized explicitly are set to zero.

HÁÐÉÛÉÔÅ ËÏÍÐÌÅÊÎ É ÐÅÒÅÓÔÁÎØÔÅ ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ ËÒÉ×ÙÍÉ ËÏÍÐÉÌÑÔÏÒÁÍÉ. :-ò

AVB>>> ôÏÔ ÖÅ IAR ÐÒÅÄÕÓÍÁÔÒÉ×ÁÅÔ ÉÚ Ó×ÏÅÇÏ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ×ÙÚÏ× AVB>>> ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔÅÌØÓËÏÊ __low_level_init(void), YK>> ÷ÓÔÁר ×ÙÚÏ× × ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ.

AVB> üÔÏ ÕÖÅ ÚÁÍÅÎÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ.

óÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÎÅ Ó×ÑÝÅÎÎÁÑ ËÏÒÏ×Á.

AVB> ÷É ÔÁËÉ ÂÕÄÅÔÅ ÕÞÉÔØ ÎÁÓ ËÏÍÍÜÒÃÉÉ? (Ó) :)

âÅÚÕÓÌÏ×ÎÏ. üÔÏ ÍÅÎÑ ÒÁÚ×ÌÅËÁÅÔ. :-)))

AVB>>> üÔÏ ×ÓÅÇÏ ÌÉÛØ ×ÁÛÉ ÐÒÅÄÒÁÓÓÕÄËÉ. YK>> üÔÏ ÐÌÏÈÏÊ ÓÔÉÌØ ÐÉÓÁÎÉÑ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍ.

AVB> ðÏÞÅÍÕ? åÓÌÉ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ Ó ÕÍÏÍ É ÚÎÁÎÉÅÍ ÐÒÅÄÍÅÔÁ, ÔÏ ×ÓÅ ×ÐÏÌÎÅ ËÒÁÓÉ×Ï É AVB> ÐÕÛÉÓÔÏ.

ðÏÔÏÍÕ ÞÔÏ ËÏÄ ÎÕÖÎÏ ÐÏÔÏÍ ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÔØ.

YK>> P.S. óÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÉÎÏÇÄÁ ÍÏÖÎÏ É ÎÕÖÎÏ ÍÅÎÑÔØ. HÏ ÔÏÌØËÏ × ÔÏÍ ÓÌÕÞÁÅ, ÅÓÌÉ YK>> ÞÔÏ-ÔÏ _ÁÂÓÏÌÀÔÎÏ_ÎÅ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ_ ÓÄÅÌÁÔØ ÄÒÕÇÉÍÉ ÓÐÏÓÏÂÁÍÉ.

AVB> éÎÏÇÄÁ ÐÒÏÝÅ ÐÏÍÅÎÑÔØ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ, ÞÅÍ ÉÓËÁÔØ AVB> ÎÅÏÞÉ×ÉÄÎÙÅ ÐÕÔÉ ÒÅÛÅÎÉÑ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÙ.

ðÒÉ×ÅÄÅÎÎÙÅ ÔÏÂÏÊ ÐÒÉÍÅÒÙ ÌÅÇËÏ ÄÅÌÁÀÔÓÑ × ÏÓÎÏ×ÎÏÊ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÅ.

WBR, Yuriy.

Hi Yuriy, hope you are having a nice day!

25 áÐÒ 05, Yuriy K wrote to Alexey V Bugrov:

AVB>> requirement. If this startup code module is linked with the AVB>> application, then, in addition to initializing idata sections, AVB>> all objects with static storage duration that are not AVB>> initialized explicitly are set to zero.

YK> HÁÐÉÛÉÔÅ ËÏÍÐÌÅÊÎ

÷ ÌÉÇÕ ÓÅËÓÕÁÌØÎÙÈ ÒÅÆÏÒÍ?

YK> É ÐÅÒÅÓÔÁÎØÔÅ ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ ËÒÉ×ÙÍÉ ËÏÍÐÉÌÑÔÏÒÁÍÉ. YK> :-ò

÷ ÞÅÍ ÓÏÓÔÏÉÔ ËÒÉ×ÏÓÔØ? ðÏ ÐÕÎËÔÁÍ.

AVB>> üÔÏ ÕÖÅ ÚÁÍÅÎÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ. YK> óÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÎÅ Ó×ÑÝÅÎÎÁÑ ËÏÒÏ×Á.

äÁ ÔÙ ÛÔÏ? ä×Á ÐÉÓØÍÁ ÎÁÚÁÄ ÔÙ ÐÒÏÐÏ×ÅÄÏ×ÁÌ ÏÂÒÁÔÎÏÅ.

AVB>> ÷É ÔÁËÉ ÂÕÄÅÔÅ ÕÞÉÔØ ÎÁÓ ËÏÍÍÜÒÃÉÉ? (Ó) :) YK> âÅÚÕÓÌÏ×ÎÏ. üÔÏ ÍÅÎÑ ÒÁÚ×ÌÅËÁÅÔ. :-)))

ôÏÇÄÁ ÉÚÕÞÁÊ ÍÁÔÞÁÓÔØ. =)

YK>>> üÔÏ ÐÌÏÈÏÊ ÓÔÉÌØ ÐÉÓÁÎÉÑ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍ. AVB>> ðÏÞÅÍÕ? åÓÌÉ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ Ó ÕÍÏÍ É ÚÎÁÎÉÅÍ ÐÒÅÄÍÅÔÁ, ÔÏ ×ÓÅ ×ÐÏÌÎÅ AVB>> ËÒÁÓÉ×Ï É ÐÕÛÉÓÔÏ. YK> ðÏÔÏÍÕ ÞÔÏ ËÏÄ ÎÕÖÎÏ ÐÏÔÏÍ ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÔØ.

Ja, ja. óÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ - ÜÔÏ ÅÝÅ ÏÄÎÏ ÍÏÄÎÏÅ ÓÏ×ÒÅÍÅÎÎÏÅ ÓÌÏ×Ï, ÕÐÏÔÒÅÂÌÑÅÔÓÑ Ë ÍÅÓÔÕ É ÎÅ Ë.

AVB>> éÎÏÇÄÁ ÐÒÏÝÅ ÐÏÍÅÎÑÔØ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ, ÞÅÍ ÉÓËÁÔØ AVB>> ÎÅÏÞÉ×ÉÄÎÙÅ ÐÕÔÉ ÒÅÛÅÎÉÑ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÙ. YK> ðÒÉ×ÅÄÅÎÎÙÅ ÔÏÂÏÊ ÐÒÉÍÅÒÙ ÌÅÇËÏ ÄÅÌÁÀÔÓÑ × ÏÓÎÏ×ÎÏÊ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÅ.

äÁ×ÁÊ ÅÝÅ ÐÒÉÍÅÒ ÐÒÉ×ÅÄÕ. áÄÁÐÔÁÃÉÑ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÄÌÑ ÓÏ×ÍÅÓÔÎÏÊ ÒÁÂÏÔÙ Ó ÂÕÔÌÏÁÄÅÒÏÍ. ÷ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÅ ÔÒÅÂÕÅÔÓÑ ËÁË ÍÉÎÉÍÕÍ ÉÚÍÅÎÉÔØ ÐÒÉ×ÑÚËÕ Ë ÆÉÚÉÞÅÓËÉÍ ÁÄÒÅÓÁÍ, Ô.Ë. ÞÁÓÔÏ ËÏÄ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÐÒÉÂÉÔ Ë ÆÉÚÉÞÅÓËÉÍ ÁÄÒÅÓÁÍ ÎÁ ÕÒÏ×ÎÅ ÉÓÈÏÄÎÉËÁ.

WBR, AVB

Mon Apr 25 2005 20:25, Alexey V Bugrov wrote to Yuriy K:

AVB>>> requirement. If this startup code module is linked with the AVB>>> application, then, in addition to initializing idata sections, AVB>>> all objects with static storage duration that are not AVB>>> initialized explicitly are set to zero.

YK>> HÁÐÉÛÉÔÅ ËÏÍÐÌÅÊÎ

AVB> ÷ ÌÉÇÕ ÓÅËÓÕÁÌØÎÙÈ ÒÅÆÏÒÍ?

HÕ ÅÓÌÉ ÔÅÂÅ ÔÁË ÈÏÞÅÔÓÑ, ÔÏ ÍÏÖÎÏ É ÔÕÄÁ. :))

YK>> É ÐÅÒÅÓÔÁÎØÔÅ ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ ËÒÉ×ÙÍÉ ËÏÍÐÉÌÑÔÏÒÁÍÉ. :-ò

AVB> ÷ ÞÅÍ ÓÏÓÔÏÉÔ ËÒÉ×ÏÓÔØ? ðÏ ÐÕÎËÔÁÍ.

1) ïÂÎÕÌÅÎÉÅ ×ÓÅÊ ÐÁÍÑÔÉ ÄÁÎÎÙÈ.

AVB>>> üÔÏ ÕÖÅ ÚÁÍÅÎÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ. YK>> óÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÎÅ Ó×ÑÝÅÎÎÁÑ ËÏÒÏ×Á.

AVB> äÁ ÔÙ ÛÔÏ? ä×Á ÐÉÓØÍÁ ÎÁÚÁÄ ÔÙ ÐÒÏÐÏ×ÅÄÏ×ÁÌ ÏÂÒÁÔÎÏÅ.

á? ãÉÔÁÔÕ, ÐÏÖÁÌÕÊÓÔÁ.

YK>>>> üÔÏ ÐÌÏÈÏÊ ÓÔÉÌØ ÐÉÓÁÎÉÑ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍ. AVB>>> ðÏÞÅÍÕ? åÓÌÉ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ Ó ÕÍÏÍ É ÚÎÁÎÉÅÍ ÐÒÅÄÍÅÔÁ, ÔÏ ×ÓÅ ×ÐÏÌÎÅ AVB>>> ËÒÁÓÉ×Ï É ÐÕÛÉÓÔÏ. YK>> ðÏÔÏÍÕ ÞÔÏ ËÏÄ ÎÕÖÎÏ ÐÏÔÏÍ ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÔØ.

AVB> Ja, ja. óÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ - ÜÔÏ ÅÝÅ ÏÄÎÏ ÍÏÄÎÏÅ ÓÏ×ÒÅÍÅÎÎÏÅ ÓÌÏ×Ï, AVB> ÕÐÏÔÒÅÂÌÑÅÔÓÑ Ë ÍÅÓÔÕ É ÎÅ Ë.

üÔÏ ÇÒÕÓÔÎÁÑ ÒÅÁÌØÎÏÓÔØ ÖÉÚÎÉ.

AVB>>> éÎÏÇÄÁ ÐÒÏÝÅ ÐÏÍÅÎÑÔØ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ, ÞÅÍ ÉÓËÁÔØ AVB>>> ÎÅÏÞÉ×ÉÄÎÙÅ ÐÕÔÉ ÒÅÛÅÎÉÑ ÐÒÏÂÌÅÍÙ. YK>> ðÒÉ×ÅÄÅÎÎÙÅ ÔÏÂÏÊ ÐÒÉÍÅÒÙ ÌÅÇËÏ ÄÅÌÁÀÔÓÑ × ÏÓÎÏ×ÎÏÊ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÅ.

AVB> äÁ×ÁÊ ÅÝÅ ÐÒÉÍÅÒ ÐÒÉ×ÅÄÕ. áÄÁÐÔÁÃÉÑ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÄÌÑ ÓÏ×ÍÅÓÔÎÏÊ ÒÁÂÏÔÙ Ó AVB> ÂÕÔÌÏÁÄÅÒÏÍ.

þÕÛØ. á ÔÏ Ñ ÂÕÔÌÏÁÄÅÒÏ× ÎÅ ÐÉÓÁÌ.

AVB> ÷ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÅ ÔÒÅÂÕÅÔÓÑ ËÁË ÍÉÎÉÍÕÍ ÉÚÍÅÎÉÔØ ÐÒÉ×ÑÚËÕ Ë AVB> ÆÉÚÉÞÅÓËÉÍ ÁÄÒÅÓÁÍ,

÷ÏÏÂÝÅ-ÔÏ ÐÒÉÌÉÞÎÙÅ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÓÔÙ ÜÔÏ ÄÅÌÁÀÔ × ÓËÒÉÐÔÅ ÌÉÎËÅÒÁ.

AVB> Ô.Ë. ÞÁÓÔÏ ËÏÄ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÐÒÉÂÉÔ Ë ÆÉÚÉÞÅÓËÉÍ ÁÄÒÅÓÁÍ AVB> ÎÁ ÕÒÏ×ÎÅ ÉÓÈÏÄÎÉËÁ.

é ÐÏÓÌÅ ÜÔÏÇÏ ËÔÏ-ÔÏ ÂÕÄÅÔ ÇÏ×ÏÒÉÔØ Ï ÐÒÏÆÅÓÓÉÏÎÁÌØÎÙÈ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÓÔÁÈ... ÷ ËÁËÏÍ ËÏÍÐÉÌÑÔÏÒÅ ËÏÄ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÐÒÉ×ÑÚÁÎ Ë ÆÉÚÉÞÅÓËÉÍ ÁÄÒÅÓÁÍ × ÉÓÈÏÄÎÉËÅ?

WBR, Yuriy.

Hi Yuriy, hope you are having a nice day!

25 áÐÒ 05, Yuriy K wrote to Alexey V Bugrov:

YK>>> É ÐÅÒÅÓÔÁÎØÔÅ ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ ËÒÉ×ÙÍÉ ËÏÍÐÉÌÑÔÏÒÁÍÉ. :-ò AVB>> ÷ ÞÅÍ ÓÏÓÔÏÉÔ ËÒÉ×ÏÓÔØ? ðÏ ÐÕÎËÔÁÍ. YK> 1) ïÂÎÕÌÅÎÉÅ ×ÓÅÊ ÐÁÍÑÔÉ ÄÁÎÎÙÈ.

ëÁËÏÍÕ ÐÕÎËÔÕ ÓÔÁÎÄÁÒÔÁ ÐÒÏÔÉ×ÏÒÅÞÉÔ?

YK>>> óÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÎÅ Ó×ÑÝÅÎÎÁÑ ËÏÒÏ×Á. AVB>> äÁ ÔÙ ÛÔÏ? ä×Á ÐÉÓØÍÁ ÎÁÚÁÄ ÔÙ ÐÒÏÐÏ×ÅÄÏ×ÁÌ ÏÂÒÁÔÎÏÅ. YK> á? ãÉÔÁÔÕ, ÐÏÖÁÌÕÊÓÔÁ.

ãÉÔÁÔÕ ÞÅÇÏ? óËÁÎÄÁÌ ÐÒÏ ÔÏ, ÞÔÏ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÍÅÎÑÔØ ÎÅÐÒÁ×ÉÌØÎÏ É ×ÒÅÄÎÏ ÔÙ ÐÅÒ×ÙÊ ÎÁÞÁÌ. ôÙ ËÁË ÎÉÂÕÄØ ÓÁÍ Ó ÓÏÂÏÊ ÄÏÇÏ×ÏÒÉÓØ ÞÔÏ ÌÉ.

------------------------- P.S. óÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÉÎÏÇÄÁ ÍÏÖÎÏ É ÎÕÖÎÏ ÍÅÎÑÔØ. HÏ ÔÏÌØËÏ × ÔÏÍ ÓÌÕÞÁÅ, ÅÓÌÉ ÞÔÏ-ÔÏ _ÁÂÓÏÌÀÔÎÏ_ÎÅ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ_ ÓÄÅÌÁÔØ ÄÒÕÇÉÍÉ ÓÐÏÓÏÂÁÍÉ.

-------------------------

þÅÍ ÎÅ Ó×ÑÝÅÎÎÁÑ ËÏÒÏ×Á?

YK>>> ðÏÔÏÍÕ ÞÔÏ ËÏÄ ÎÕÖÎÏ ÐÏÔÏÍ ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÔØ. AVB>> Ja, ja. óÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ - ÜÔÏ ÅÝÅ ÏÄÎÏ ÍÏÄÎÏÅ ÓÏ×ÒÅÍÅÎÎÏÅ AVB>> ÓÌÏ×Ï, ÕÐÏÔÒÅÂÌÑÅÔÓÑ Ë ÍÅÓÔÕ É ÎÅ Ë. YK> üÔÏ ÇÒÕÓÔÎÁÑ ÒÅÁÌØÎÏÓÔØ ÖÉÚÎÉ.

óÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ *nix ÓÉÓÔÅÍ ÎÁ ÐÏÒÑÄÏË ÎÉÖÅ, ÞÅÍ ÏÔ MS (ÐÏÒÕÔÞÉËÉ, ÍÏÌÞÁÔØ!), ÏÄÎÁËÏ × ÏÐÒÅÄÅÌÅÎÎÙÈ ÏÔÒÁÓÌÑÈ MS ÄÁÖÅ ÂÌÉÚËÏ ÎÅ ÍÏÖÅÔ ÐÏÄÐÏÌÚÔÉ ÎÁ ÚÁÍÅÎÕ.

AVB>> äÁ×ÁÊ ÅÝÅ ÐÒÉÍÅÒ ÐÒÉ×ÅÄÕ. áÄÁÐÔÁÃÉÑ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÄÌÑ ÓÏ×ÍÅÓÔÎÏÊ AVB>> ÒÁÂÏÔÙ Ó ÂÕÔÌÏÁÄÅÒÏÍ. YK> þÕÛØ. á ÔÏ Ñ ÂÕÔÌÏÁÄÅÒÏ× ÎÅ ÐÉÓÁÌ.

á ÔÏ Ñ ÎÅ ÐÉÓáÌ. :-ò

AVB>> ÷ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÅ ÔÒÅÂÕÅÔÓÑ ËÁË ÍÉÎÉÍÕÍ ÉÚÍÅÎÉÔØ ÐÒÉ×ÑÚËÕ Ë AVB>> ÆÉÚÉÞÅÓËÉÍ ÁÄÒÅÓÁÍ, YK> ÷ÏÏÂÝÅ-ÔÏ ÐÒÉÌÉÞÎÙÅ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÓÔÙ ÜÔÏ ÄÅÌÁÀÔ × ÓËÒÉÐÔÅ ÌÉÎËÅÒÁ.

çÙ. ôÕÔ ÅÓÔØ ÅÝÅ ÏÄÉÎ ÚÁÐÁÄÎÙÊ ÐÒÏÐÏ×ÅÄÎÉË, ÏÎ ÕÔ×ÅÒÖÄÁÅÔ, ÞÔÏ ÓËÒÉÔÙ ÌÉÎËÅÒÁ ÅÒÅÓØ É ÂÏÌØÛÏÅ ÚÌÏ.

AVB>> Ô.Ë. ÞÁÓÔÏ ËÏÄ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÐÒÉÂÉÔ Ë ÆÉÚÉÞÅÓËÉÍ ÁÄÒÅÓÁÍ AVB>> ÎÁ ÕÒÏ×ÎÅ ÉÓÈÏÄÎÉËÁ.

YK> é ÐÏÓÌÅ ÜÔÏÇÏ ËÔÏ-ÔÏ ÂÕÄÅÔ ÇÏ×ÏÒÉÔØ Ï ÐÒÏÆÅÓÓÉÏÎÁÌØÎÙÈ YK> ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÓÔÁÈ...

HÕ ÄÁ, ÐÏÎÁÂÒÁÌÉ × ÍÉËÒÏÞÉÐÅ ÐÏ ÏÂßÑ×ÌÅÎÉÑÍ. (Ó)

ñ ÔÏ ÚÄÅÓØ ÐÒÉ ÞÅÍ?

YK> ÷ ËÁËÏÍ ËÏÍÐÉÌÑÔÏÒÅ ËÏÄ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÐÒÉ×ÑÚÁÎ Ë ÆÉÚÉÞÅÓËÉÍ ÁÄÒÅÓÁÍ × YK> ÉÓÈÏÄÎÉËÅ?

õÇÁÄÁÊ Ó ÔÒÅÈ ÒÁÚ. :)

#pragma code _entry_scn=0x000000 void _entry (void) { _asm goto _startup _endasm

}

WBR, AVB

Mon Apr 25 2005 21:52, Alexey V Bugrov wrote to Yuriy K:

YK>>>> É ÐÅÒÅÓÔÁÎØÔÅ ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ ËÒÉ×ÙÍÉ ËÏÍÐÉÌÑÔÏÒÁÍÉ. :-ò AVB>>> ÷ ÞÅÍ ÓÏÓÔÏÉÔ ËÒÉ×ÏÓÔØ? ðÏ ÐÕÎËÔÁÍ. YK>> 1) ïÂÎÕÌÅÎÉÅ ×ÓÅÊ ÐÁÍÑÔÉ ÄÁÎÎÙÈ.

AVB> ëÁËÏÍÕ ÐÕÎËÔÕ ÓÔÁÎÄÁÒÔÁ ÐÒÏÔÉ×ÏÒÅÞÉÔ?

äÌÑ ÎÅ ÎÅËÒÉ×ÏÓÔÉ ÓÏÏÔ×ÅÔÓÔ×ÉÅ ÓÔÁÎÄÁÒÔÕ ÎÅÏÂÈÏÄÉÍÏ, ÎÏ ÎÅÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏ.

YK>>>> óÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÎÅ Ó×ÑÝÅÎÎÁÑ ËÏÒÏ×Á. AVB>>> äÁ ÔÙ ÛÔÏ? ä×Á ÐÉÓØÍÁ ÎÁÚÁÄ ÔÙ ÐÒÏÐÏ×ÅÄÏ×ÁÌ ÏÂÒÁÔÎÏÅ. YK>> á? ãÉÔÁÔÕ, ÐÏÖÁÌÕÊÓÔÁ.

AVB> ãÉÔÁÔÕ ÞÅÇÏ? óËÁÎÄÁÌ ÐÒÏ ÔÏ, ÞÔÏ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÍÅÎÑÔØ ÎÅÐÒÁ×ÉÌØÎÏ É ×ÒÅÄÎÏ ÔÙ AVB> ÐÅÒ×ÙÊ ÎÁÞÁÌ. ôÙ ËÁË ÎÉÂÕÄØ ÓÁÍ Ó ÓÏÂÏÊ ÄÏÇÏ×ÏÒÉÓØ ÞÔÏ ÌÉ.

AVB> ------------------------- AVB> P.S. óÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÉÎÏÇÄÁ ÍÏÖÎÏ É ÎÕÖÎÏ ÍÅÎÑÔØ. HÏ ÔÏÌØËÏ × ÔÏÍ ÓÌÕÞÁÅ, ÅÓÌÉ AVB> ÞÔÏ-ÔÏ _ÁÂÓÏÌÀÔÎÏ_ÎÅ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ_ ÓÄÅÌÁÔØ ÄÒÕÇÉÍÉ ÓÐÏÓÏÂÁÍÉ. AVB> -------------------------

AVB> þÅÍ ÎÅ Ó×ÑÝÅÎÎÁÑ ËÏÒÏ×Á?

ôÅÍ, ÞÔÏ ÒÁÚÒÅÛÁÅÔÓÑ ÍÅÎÑÔØ, ÅÓÌÉ _ÁÂÓÏÌÀÔÎÏ_ÎÅ×ÏÚÍÏÖÎÏ_ ÓÄÅÌÁÔØ ÉÎÁÞÅ.

YK>>>> ðÏÔÏÍÕ ÞÔÏ ËÏÄ ÎÕÖÎÏ ÐÏÔÏÍ ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÔØ. AVB>>> Ja, ja. óÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ - ÜÔÏ ÅÝÅ ÏÄÎÏ ÍÏÄÎÏÅ ÓÏ×ÒÅÍÅÎÎÏÅ AVB>>> ÓÌÏ×Ï, ÕÐÏÔÒÅÂÌÑÅÔÓÑ Ë ÍÅÓÔÕ É ÎÅ Ë. YK>> üÔÏ ÇÒÕÓÔÎÁÑ ÒÅÁÌØÎÏÓÔØ ÖÉÚÎÉ.

AVB> óÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ *nix ÓÉÓÔÅÍ ÎÁ ÐÏÒÑÄÏË ÎÉÖÅ, ÞÅÍ ÏÔ MS (ÐÏÒÕÔÞÉËÉ, AVB> ÍÏÌÞÁÔØ!), ÏÄÎÁËÏ × ÏÐÒÅÄÅÌÅÎÎÙÈ ÏÔÒÁÓÌÑÈ MS ÄÁÖÅ ÂÌÉÚËÏ ÎÅ ÍÏÖÅÔ AVB> ÐÏÄÐÏÌÚÔÉ ÎÁ ÚÁÍÅÎÕ.

èÏÒÏÛÁÑ ÂÕÚÉÎÁ ÕÒÏÄÉÌÁÓØ × ÏÇÏÒÏÄÅ. HÏ ÄÑÄØËÁ ×ÓÅ ÒÁ×ÎÏ × ëÉÅ×Å...

AVB>>> ÷ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÅ ÔÒÅÂÕÅÔÓÑ ËÁË ÍÉÎÉÍÕÍ ÉÚÍÅÎÉÔØ ÐÒÉ×ÑÚËÕ Ë AVB>>> ÆÉÚÉÞÅÓËÉÍ ÁÄÒÅÓÁÍ, YK>> ÷ÏÏÂÝÅ-ÔÏ ÐÒÉÌÉÞÎÙÅ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÓÔÙ ÜÔÏ ÄÅÌÁÀÔ × ÓËÒÉÐÔÅ ÌÉÎËÅÒÁ.

AVB> çÙ. ôÕÔ ÅÓÔØ ÅÝÅ ÏÄÉÎ ÚÁÐÁÄÎÙÊ ÐÒÏÐÏ×ÅÄÎÉË, ÏÎ ÕÔ×ÅÒÖÄÁÅÔ, ÞÔÏ ÓËÒÉÔÙ AVB> ÌÉÎËÅÒÁ ÅÒÅÓØ É ÂÏÌØÛÏÅ ÚÌÏ.

òÁÚÕÍÅÅÔÓÑ ÚÌÏ. HÏ, Õ×Ù,ÎÅÉÚÂÅÖÎÏÅ ÄÌÑ ÐÉÓÁÔÅÌÅÊ ÂÕÔÌÏÁÄÅÒÏ×.

AVB>>> Ô.Ë. ÞÁÓÔÏ ËÏÄ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÐÒÉÂÉÔ Ë ÆÉÚÉÞÅÓËÉÍ ÁÄÒÅÓÁÍ AVB>>> ÎÁ ÕÒÏ×ÎÅ ÉÓÈÏÄÎÉËÁ. YK>> é ÐÏÓÌÅ ÜÔÏÇÏ ËÔÏ-ÔÏ ÂÕÄÅÔ ÇÏ×ÏÒÉÔØ Ï ÐÒÏÆÅÓÓÉÏÎÁÌØÎÙÈ YK>> ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÉÓÔÁÈ...

AVB> ñ ÔÏ ÚÄÅÓØ ÐÒÉ ÞÅÍ?

ôÙ ÐÒÏ ÎÉÈ ÞÔÏ-ÔÏ ÇÏ×ÏÒÉÌ.

YK>> ÷ ËÁËÏÍ ËÏÍÐÉÌÑÔÏÒÅ ËÏÄ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÐÒÉ×ÑÚÁÎ Ë ÆÉÚÉÞÅÓËÉÍ ÁÄÒÅÓÁÍ × YK>> ÉÓÈÏÄÎÉËÅ?

AVB> õÇÁÄÁÊ Ó ÔÒÅÈ ÒÁÚ. :)

AVB> #pragma code _entry_scn=0x000000 AVB> void AVB> _entry (void) AVB> { AVB> _asm goto _startup _endasm

AVB> }

÷ÏÔ ÔÏÇÄÁ ÔÅÂÅ ÅÝÅ ÏÄÉÎ ÐÕÎËÔ ÄÌÑ ËÒÉ×ÏÓÔÉ.

2) HÅÕÍÅÎÉÅ _Á×ÔÏÒÏ×_ ËÏÍÐÉÌÑÔÏÒÁ ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ ÓÏÂÓÔ×ÅÎÎÙÍ ÌÉÎËÅÒÏÍ.

÷ÙÂÒÏÓØ ÔÙ ÜÔÕ ËÁËÕ, ÅÊ-ÂÏÇÕ. :-))))))

WBR, Yuriy.

Yuriy, ÔÙ Åݣ ÚÄÅÓØ ÓÉÄÉÛØ?

ðÏÎÅÄÅÌØÎÉË áÐÒÅÌØ 25 2005 20:49, Yuriy K wrote to Alexey V Bugrov:

AVB>>>> ðÏÞÅÍÕ? åÓÌÉ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ Ó ÕÍÏÍ É ÚÎÁÎÉÅÍ ÐÒÅÄÍÅÔÁ, ÔÏ ×ÓÅ ×ÐÏÌÎÅ AVB>>>> ËÒÁÓÉ×Ï É ÐÕÛÉÓÔÏ. YK>>> ðÏÔÏÍÕ ÞÔÏ ËÏÄ ÎÕÖÎÏ ÐÏÔÏÍ ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÔØ. AVB>> Ja, ja. óÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ - ÜÔÏ ÅÝÅ ÏÄÎÏ ÍÏÄÎÏÅ ÓÏ×ÒÅÍÅÎÎÏÅ AVB>> ÓÌÏ×Ï, ÕÐÏÔÒÅÂÌÑÅÔÓÑ Ë ÍÅÓÔÕ É ÎÅ Ë. YK> üÔÏ ÇÒÕÓÔÎÁÑ ÒÅÁÌØÎÏÓÔØ ÖÉÚÎÉ.

ðÏÞÅÍÕ ÇÒÕÓÔÎÁÑ? úÁ ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÅÎÉÅ ÍÏÇÕÔ ÄÅÎÅÖËÕ ÐÌÁÔÉÔØ ;-)

çÅÏÒÇÉÊ

Hi Yuriy, hope you are having a nice day!

25 áÐÒ 05, Yuriy K wrote to Alexey V Bugrov:

AVB>> ëÁËÏÍÕ ÐÕÎËÔÕ ÓÔÁÎÄÁÒÔÁ ÐÒÏÔÉ×ÏÒÅÞÉÔ? YK> äÌÑ ÎÅ ÎÅËÒÉ×ÏÓÔÉ ÓÏÏÔ×ÅÔÓÔ×ÉÅ ÓÔÁÎÄÁÒÔÕ ÎÅÏÂÈÏÄÉÍÏ, ÎÏ ÎÅÄÏÓÔÁÔÏÞÎÏ.

åÒÅÓØ. HÅ ÓÌÅÄÕÅÔ ÏÖÉÄÁÔØ ÂÏÌØÛÅ, ÞÅÍ ÎÁÐÉÓÁÎÏ × ÓÔÁÎÄÁÒÔÅ.

AVB>> óÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ *nix ÓÉÓÔÅÍ ÎÁ ÐÏÒÑÄÏË ÎÉÖÅ, ÞÅÍ ÏÔ MS AVB>> (ÐÏÒÕÔÞÉËÉ, ÍÏÌÞÁÔØ!), ÏÄÎÁËÏ × ÏÐÒÅÄÅÌÅÎÎÙÈ ÏÔÒÁÓÌÑÈ MS ÄÁÖÅ AVB>> ÂÌÉÚËÏ ÎÅ ÍÏÖÅÔ ÐÏÄÐÏÌÚÔÉ ÎÁ ÚÁÍÅÎÕ. YK> èÏÒÏÛÁÑ ÂÕÚÉÎÁ ÕÒÏÄÉÌÁÓØ × ÏÇÏÒÏÄÅ. HÏ ÄÑÄØËÁ ×ÓÅ ÒÁ×ÎÏ × ëÉÅ×Å...

ðÅÒÅÞÉÔÁÊ ÅÝÅ ÒÁÚ. ÷ÄÕÍÞÉ×Ï. =) þÁÓÔÏ ÐÒÉÈÏÄÉÔÓÑ ÐÒÉÍÅÎÑÔØ ÍÅÎÅÅ ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÙÅ ÒÅÛÅÎÉÑ, ÅÓÌÉ ÈÏÒÏÛÏ ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÙÅ ÎÅ ÏÂÅÓÐÅÞÉ×ÁÀÔ ÎÕÖÎÏÊ ÆÕÎËÃÉÏÎÁÌØÎÏÓÔÉ. çÌÁ×ÎÏÅ ÎÅ ÚÁÃÉËÌÉ×ÁÔØÓÑ ÎÁ ÒÅÌÉÇÉÉ.

AVB>> _entry (void) AVB>> { AVB>> _asm goto _startup _endasm AVB>> }

YK> ÷ÏÔ ÔÏÇÄÁ ÔÅÂÅ ÅÝÅ ÏÄÉÎ ÐÕÎËÔ ÄÌÑ ËÒÉ×ÏÓÔÉ. YK> 2) HÅÕÍÅÎÉÅ _Á×ÔÏÒÏ×_ ËÏÍÐÉÌÑÔÏÒÁ ÐÏÌØÚÏ×ÁÔØÓÑ ÓÏÂÓÔ×ÅÎÎÙÍ ÌÉÎËÅÒÏÍ.

ðÏÎÑÔÎÏ. äÁ×ÁÊ ÐÏ ÓÕÝÅÓÔ×Õ. òÁÚÄÅÌ Startup customization × ÄÏËÕÍÅÎÔÁÃÉÉ ÅÓÔØ, Ô.Å. ÎÉËÁËÉÈ ÈÁËÏ× ÐÒÉÍÅÎÑÔØ ÎÅ ÐÒÉÈÏÄÉÔÓÑ. ôÁË ×ÓÅ-ÔÁËÉ ÒÁÓÓËÁÖÉ, ËÁË ÚÁÍÅÎÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ×ÌÉÑÅÔ ÎÁ ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ?

YK> ÷ÙÂÒÏÓØ ÔÙ ÜÔÕ ËÁËÕ, ÅÊ-ÂÏÇÕ. :-))))))

÷É ÔÁËÉ ÐÒÏÄÏÌÖÁÅÔÅ ÕÞÉÔØ ÎÁÓ ËÏÍÍÅÒÃÉÉ? +)

WBR, AVB

Tue Apr 26 2005 11:09, Alexey V Bugrov wrote to Yuriy K:

AVB> ôÁË ×ÓÅ-ÔÁËÉ ÒÁÓÓËÁÖÉ, ËÁË ÚÁÍÅÎÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ×ÌÉÑÅÔ ÎÁ ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ?

÷ÉÄÉÛØ ÌÉ. ìÀÂÉÔÅÌÉ ÐÉÓÁÔØ ÜÆÆÅËÔÉ×ÎÙÅ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÙ ËÌÁÓÓÁ "Hello world" ÞÁÓÔÏ ÕÄÉ×ÌÑÀÔÓÑ, ËÏÇÄÁ × ÏÓÎÏ×ÎÏÍ ÉÚ-ÚÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÏÎÏ ÎÁÞÉÎÁÅÔ ÚÁÎÉÍÁÔØ ËÉÌÏÂÁÊÔÙ. ôÏÇÄÁ ÏÎÉ ÌÅÚÕÔ × ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ É ×ÙËÉÄÙ×ÁÀÔ ÏÔÔÔÕÄÁ ×ÓÅ, ÞÅÇÏ ÉÍ ÐÏÎÑÔØ ÎÅ ÄÁÎÏ. ðÏÓÌÅ ÞÅÇÏ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÐÅÒÅËÏÞÅ×Ù×ÁÅÔ × ÐÒÏÅËÔ É ÏÄÎÁÖÄÙ ÜÔÏ ËÏÎÞÁÅÔÓÑ ÎÅÐÏÎÑÔÎÙÍÉ ÇÌÀËÁÍÉ, ËÏÔÏÒÙÅ ÐÒÉÈÏÄÉÔÓÑ ×ÙÌÁ×ÌÉ×ÁÔØ ÔÒÉ ÄÎÑ. óÁÍ ÌÀÂÉÔÅÌØ × ÜÔÏ ×ÒÅÍÑ ÍÏÖÅÔ ÂÙÔØ ÕÖÅ ÄÁÌÅËÏ, ÔÁË ÞÔÏ ÐÒÉÈÏÄÉÔÓÑ ÌÉÎÞÅ×ÁÔØ ÐÅÒ×ÏÇÏ ÐÏÐÁ×ÛÅÇÏÓÑ. üÔÏ ÎÅÓÐÒÁ×ÅÄÌÉ×Ï, ÐÏÜÔÏÍÕ ÐÒÁ×ËÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÐÌÏÈÏ ×ÌÉÑÅÔ ÎÁ ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ É ËÁÔÅÇÏÒÉÞÅÓËÉ ÚÁÐÒÅÝÁÅÔÓÑ.

VLV

"âÙÔØ ÞÅÓÔÎÙÍ - ÌÕÞÛÉÊ ÓÐÏÓÏ ÏÓÔÁ×ÁÔØÓÑ ÂÅÄÎÙÍ" (c) HÁÐÏÌÅÏÎ âÏÎÁÐÁÒÔ

Hi Vladimir, hope you are having a nice day!

26 áÐÒ 05, Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote to Alexey V Bugrov:

AVB>> ôÁË ×ÓÅ-ÔÁËÉ ÒÁÓÓËÁÖÉ, ËÁË ÚÁÍÅÎÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ×ÌÉÑÅÔ ÎÁ AVB>> ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ?

VV> ÷ÉÄÉÛØ ÌÉ. ìÀÂÉÔÅÌÉ ÐÉÓÁÔØ ÜÆÆÅËÔÉ×ÎÙÅ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÙ ËÌÁÓÓÁ "Hello world" VV> ÞÁÓÔÏ ÕÄÉ×ÌÑÀÔÓÑ, ËÏÇÄÁ × ÏÓÎÏ×ÎÏÍ ÉÚ-ÚÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÏÎÏ ÎÁÞÉÎÁÅÔ VV> ÚÁÎÉÍÁÔØ ËÉÌÏÂÁÊÔÙ. ôÏÇÄÁ ÏÎÉ ÌÅÚÕÔ × ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ É ×ÙËÉÄÙ×ÁÀÔ ÏÔÔÔÕÄÁ VV> ×ÓÅ, ÞÅÇÏ ÉÍ ÐÏÎÑÔØ ÎÅ ÄÁÎÏ. ðÏÓÌÅ ÞÅÇÏ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÐÅÒÅËÏÞÅ×Ù×ÁÅÔ × VV> ÐÒÏÅËÔ É ÏÄÎÁÖÄÙ ÜÔÏ ËÏÎÞÁÅÔÓÑ ÎÅÐÏÎÑÔÎÙÍÉ ÇÌÀËÁÍÉ, ËÏÔÏÒÙÅ ÐÒÉÈÏÄÉÔÓÑ VV> ×ÙÌÁ×ÌÉ×ÁÔØ ÔÒÉ ÄÎÑ. óÁÍ ÌÀÂÉÔÅÌØ × ÜÔÏ ×ÒÅÍÑ ÍÏÖÅÔ ÂÙÔØ ÕÖÅ ÄÁÌÅËÏ, VV> ÔÁË ÞÔÏ ÐÒÉÈÏÄÉÔÓÑ ÌÉÎÞÅ×ÁÔØ ÐÅÒ×ÏÇÏ ÐÏÐÁ×ÛÅÇÏÓÑ. üÔÏ ÎÅÓÐÒÁ×ÅÄÌÉ×Ï, VV> ÐÏÜÔÏÍÕ ÐÒÁ×ËÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÐÌÏÈÏ ×ÌÉÑÅÔ ÎÁ ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ É VV> ËÁÔÅÇÏÒÉÞÅÓËÉ ÚÁÐÒÅÝÁÅÔÓÑ.

ðÒÏ ÔÕÐÏÓÔØ, ÎÁÚÙ×ÁÅÍÕÀ × óûá ÐÒÅÃÅÄÅÎÔÎÙÍ ÐÒÁ×ÏÍ, Ñ ÎÁÓÌÙÛÁÎ. ïÄÎÁËÏ, ÅÓÌÉ ÅÓÔØ ÒÅÚÏÎ ÐÒÉÍÅÎÉÔØ ÉÓÐÒÁ×ÌÅÎÎÙÊ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ, ÔÏ ÏÎÙÊ ËÌÁÄÅÔÓÑ × ËÁÔÁÌÏÇ Ó ÐÒÏÅËÔÏÍ É ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÔÓÑ ×ÍÅÓÔÅ ÓÏ ×ÓÅÍÉ ÏÓÔÁÌØÎÙÍÉ ÉÓÈÏÄÎÉËÁÍÉ.

WBR, AVB

ðÒÉ×ÅÔ Vladimir!

26 Apr 05 18:22, Vladimir Vassilevsky ÐÉÓÁÌ Alexey V Bugrov:

AVB>> ôÁË ×ÓÅ-ÔÁËÉ ÒÁÓÓËÁÖÉ, ËÁË ÚÁÍÅÎÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ×ÌÉÑÅÔ ÎÁ AVB>> ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ?

VV> ÷ÉÄÉÛØ ÌÉ. ìÀÂÉÔÅÌÉ ÐÉÓÁÔØ ÜÆÆÅËÔÉ×ÎÙÅ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÙ ËÌÁÓÓÁ "Hello world" VV> ÞÁÓÔÏ ÕÄÉ×ÌÑÀÔÓÑ, ËÏÇÄÁ × ÏÓÎÏ×ÎÏÍ ÉÚ-ÚÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÏÎÏ ÎÁÞÉÎÁÅÔ VV> ÚÁÎÉÍÁÔØ ËÉÌÏÂÁÊÔÙ. ôÏÇÄÁ ÏÎÉ ÌÅÚÕÔ × ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ É ×ÙËÉÄÙ×ÁÀÔ ÏÔÔÔÕÄÁ VV> ×ÓÅ, ÞÅÇÏ ÉÍ ÐÏÎÑÔØ ÎÅ ÄÁÎÏ. ðÏÓÌÅ ÞÅÇÏ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÐÅÒÅËÏÞÅ×Ù×ÁÅÔ × VV> ÐÒÏÅËÔ É ÏÄÎÁÖÄÙ ÜÔÏ ËÏÎÞÁÅÔÓÑ ÎÅÐÏÎÑÔÎÙÍÉ ÇÌÀËÁÍÉ, ËÏÔÏÒÙÅ ÐÒÉÈÏÄÉÔÓÑ VV> ×ÙÌÁ×ÌÉ×ÁÔØ ÔÒÉ ÄÎÑ. óÁÍ ÌÀÂÉÔÅÌØ × ÜÔÏ ×ÒÅÍÑ ÍÏÖÅÔ ÂÙÔØ ÕÖÅ ÄÁÌÅËÏ, VV> ÔÁË ÞÔÏ ÐÒÉÈÏÄÉÔÓÑ ÌÉÎÞÅ×ÁÔØ ÐÅÒ×ÏÇÏ ÐÏÐÁ×ÛÅÇÏÓÑ. üÔÏ ÎÅÓÐÒÁ×ÅÄÌÉ×Ï, VV> ÐÏÜÔÏÍÕ ÐÒÁ×ËÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÐÌÏÈÏ ×ÌÉÑÅÔ ÎÁ ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ É VV> ËÁÔÅÇÏÒÉÞÅÓËÉ ÚÁÐÒÅÝÁÅÔÓÑ.

÷ÎÅÓÕ ÎÅËÏÔÏÒÏÅ ÕÔÏÞÎÅÎÉÅ: × ÄÁÎÎÏÍ ÐÒÉÍÅÒÅ ÐÌÏÈÏ ×ÌÉÑÅÔ ÎÁ ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ ÎÅ ÐÒÁ×ËÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ËÁË ÔÁËÏ×ÁÑ, Á ×Ï-ÐÅÒ×ÙÈ, ÐÒÁ×ËÁ ËÏÄÁ ÂÅÚ ÑÓÎÏÇÏ ÐÏÎÉÍÁÎÉÑ ÅÇÏ ÎÁÚÎÁÞÅÎÉÑ, É ×Ï-×ÔÏÒÙÈ, ÏÔÓÕÔÓÔ×ÉÅ ÄÏËÕÍÅÎÔÉÒÏ×ÁÎÉÑ ×ÎÅÓÅÎÎÙÈ ÉÚÍÅÎÅÎÉÊ. é ÔÏ, É ÄÒÕÇÏÅ ÓÁÍÏ ÐÏ ÓÅÂÅ ÐÌÏÈÏ ×ÌÉÑÅÔ ÎÁ ÓÏÐÒÏ×ÏÖÄÁÅÍÏÓÔØ ÎÅ ÚÁ×ÉÓÉÍÏ ÏÔ ÔÏÇÏ, Ñ×ÌÑÅÔÓÑ ÉÓÐÒÁ×ÌÑÅÍÙÊ ÍÏÄÕÌØ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÏÍ ÉÌÉ ÎÅÔ. ÷ÓÅÇÏ ÎÁÉÌÕÞÛÅÇÏ, [Team PCAD 2000] áÌÅËÓÅÊ í. ... HÅ ÍÅÓÔÏ ÐÏÒÔÉÔ ÞÅÌÏ×ÅËÁ, Á ÞÅÌÏ×ÅË ÍÅÓÔÏ.

Hi Vladimir,

Tue Apr 26 2005 18:22, Vladimir Vassilevsky wrote to Alexey V Bugrov:

VV> ÷ÉÄÉÛØ ÌÉ. ìÀÂÉÔÅÌÉ ÐÉÓÁÔØ ÜÆÆÅËÔÉ×ÎÙÅ ÐÒÏÇÒÁÍÍÙ ËÌÁÓÓÁ "Hello world" VV> ÞÁÓÔÏ ÕÄÉ×ÌÑÀÔÓÑ, ËÏÇÄÁ × ÏÓÎÏ×ÎÏÍ ÉÚ-ÚÁ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ ÏÎÏ ÎÁÞÉÎÁÅÔ VV> ÚÁÎÉÍÁÔØ ËÉÌÏÂÁÊÔÙ. ôÏÇÄÁ ÏÎÉ ÌÅÚÕÔ × ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ É ×ÙËÉÄÙ×ÁÀÔ ÏÔÔÔÕÄÁ ×ÓÅ, VV> ÞÅÇÏ ÉÍ ÐÏÎÑÔØ ÎÅ ÄÁÎÏ. ðÏÓÌÅ ÞÅÇÏ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐ ÐÅÒÅËÏÞÅ×Ù×ÁÅÔ × ÐÒÏÅËÔ VV> É ÏÄÎÁÖÄÙ ÜÔÏ ËÏÎÞÁÅÔÓÑ ÎÅÐÏÎÑÔÎÙÍÉ ÇÌÀËÁÍÉ, ËÏÔÏÒÙÅ ÐÒÉÈÏÄÉÔÓÑ ëÁË ×ÁÒÉÁÎÔ - Keil c166. ðÒÁËÔÉÞÅÓËÉÊ ÌÀÂÏÊ ÐÒÏÅËÔ, ÏÔÌÉÞÎÙÊ ÏÔ "Hello world" ÎÁÞÉÎÁÅÔÓÑ Ó ×ËÌÀÞÅÎÉÑ ËÏÐÉÉ ÓÔÁÒÔÁÐÁ × Ó×ÏÊ ÐÒÏÅËÔ É ÐÒÁ×ËÉ ÐÏÄ ËÏÎËÒÅÔÎÙÅ ÎÕÖÄÙ.

WBR, Michael

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