In awe of electricians

Nice to know we're appreciated. Not so sure about calling us 'electricians' though. They're the guys who fit wiring to homes, offices and factories.

Graham

That's nice.

Of course, none of that has anything to do with the kind of work that electricians do. Perhaps you meant you're in awe of electronics engineers?

Sheesh, I bet you're a big hit at parties. Lighten up for chrissakes.

Electronics (and physics, its source) has one critical difference from religions: if nobody believed in it, it would still be real.

The key is lots of patience. ;-)

PIC microcontrollers are good to play with. Search for PICLIST and 16F84. There's loads out there.

I'm in awe of electricians that work on 750kv power lines. I wouldn't go near it even if my cheap DMM read zero..

-Bill

Do you need a glass navel to see where you're going? If you don't figure out the difference sooner or later, you'll wind up with an unpleasant surprise some time, when you try to hire an electrician to design electronic circuits, or, worse yet, hire a EE to rewire your house.

I'm referring to electricians in a general sense: engineers, designers, contractors, whatever label(s) you wish to slap on it. Degree of knowledge isn't necessarily proportional to any one of these titles.

Electricians are wire pullers. 'In general', the term would be Technician OR Engineer.

Idiots like you are quickly 'plonked'.

By all means, asshole.

There was a time (late eighteenth century) when "electrician" referred to a scientist working at the frontier of physics. It wasn't long before the definition changed, in much the same way that the eithteenth century's "mechanician" became the nineteenth century's "mechanic."

Yes. By any, or all means, you are an immature asshole. Did your parents have any kids who weren't born brain dead?

It wasn't until I started looking up definitions that I realized why anyone might take offense at the term. I'm not sure what's so different about electronics, e.g. I've never heard of a doctor who took offense at being called a "physician" instead of something else. But at any rate no offense was intended to anyone, except maybe Mr. Terrell who really does sound like a royal asshole.

I'm only trying to talk to you on your level. Grow up and act like an adult, and you'll see a different response.

Perhaps you need to spend a little more time looking up those definitions. "Doctor" and "physician" are roughly synonymous. "Electrician" and "electronics [or electrical] engineer" aren't even close to the same thing.

Perhaps you need to get a freaking social life.

You need to polish that glass navel of yours before you run into something...

Paint it black ank let him step in front of a bus.

oh, you mean "electron psychiatrists". "so tell me, are you always this negative?"