Commercial mains wiring: 12ga wire for 30 amp load?

Nov 10, 2005 27 Replies

That is what the NEC says to use for the circuit to the motor. They probably said 16 ".5" so you wouldn't use 14 ga wire and a 40a brealer

That is usually a question on the inspector test. FLA=16 with internal O/L protection, what is the min wire size & max breaker. Answer #14cu, 40a. Now days breakers are usually HACR so you don't need one that big to handle the locked rotor on start up but the code hasn't changed.

The 14ga = 15a, 12ga = 20a 10ga = 30a we all know is really 240.4(D) and is aimed at the circuits that are likely to have receptacles, where the installer has no control over what gets plugged in so the

80% safety factor is built into the breaker size limit. Folks will keep plugging things in till the breaker trips, then unplug the clock if that will let it hold.

True, but why would anyone undersize the wire? If it's a 30A breaker - you best be using at least 10AWG wire! Even larger if youre 50' or more from the source. Why would you Jeopardize burning out the motor from a large voltage drop in the wire? Stall current (starting current to break inertia) is typically 20* running I...

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Doh!

;-) Rich

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frequency? what mechanical load is it driving?

yeah 10% more voltage out than in means 10% more current in than out (+ losses).

Bye. Jasen

Thus spake Jasen Betts:

60hz. 4hp cap. start motor driving 2-stage compressor, light duty cycle (20-25%).

FBt

A measurement between the load and transformer should tell you where the extra current is going.

Try a smaller pulley on the motor (or larger on the compressor)

That'll increase the duty cycle but reduce the load on the motor (and thefore the current it draws)

Bye. Jasen

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