CodeWright Error

That's certainly true - but I got the impression that this poster was looking for CodeWright as a new editor, as he first wants a demo or evaluation copy. That makes it a very strange choice.

That would make sense for someone who has worked with BRIEF for years and has all the shortcuts burned into muscle memory.

I don't know that one at all - but as I said, there is a huge range of possible choices for editors. I have not used more than a small fraction of them.

When you reply, but sure you don't leave the "-- " on the line before your new writing. That flags it as a signature and makes it hard to read.

If your development method is so constrained that you can't use a different editor, you may be in trouble. If you are not in a big hurry I will check my office when I get back next week and see if I have an old 5.1 CD around. I know I had a couple of versions and that may be one of them.

I'm a little uncomfortable with the legality of this though. They are still selling Codewright, I think mainly to the mainframe code development market where it was a very popular tool along with PVCS and some other packages. The price is up there, over $300 I think. But shoot me an email Wednesday and I'll try to remember to dig it up.

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Rick

Hello Nick.

Note that Codewright is not a compiler, it is only an editor.

When I used codewright, it was configured to run make externally. When we changed IDE, there was no need to change the code at all.

Does the current build process use a makefile? If so you can just run the build process from the command line.

Andy

I can't figure out what newsreader you are using or why you are using it so badly, but /please/ fix things so that you actually reply to messages in the same thread, rather than starting new threads, and make sure you write your comments as text and not as a Usenet signature. It's rare that I see a poster and think that even Google Groups does not mess up posts /that/ badly!

I would strongly recommend that you don't touch this system. Hire someone who knows how these things work. If you are so inexperienced that you mix up editors and compilers (while writing in assembly), and can't adapt instructions referring to one editor to work with a different editor, then you are /way/ out of your depth.

(I don't mean this as a criticism or an insult - people have different experience, education, abilities and knowledge. I have no idea what your background is here - but it is clear that you don't have the knowledge and abilities to handle the task set. Accept that, and find someone who can do the job.)

Again, for the sake of everyone in the building, don't try any more. Get someone else to do the job.

Working in assembler is not for amateurs - at least, not for something that matters. And MASM is old and outdated software, for use in DOS systems. You need someone who is experienced with assembly programming in DOS.

The manual is in dead tree format - it's not a file that can be downloaded. No, I will not post it to you. Even if it were a pdf, I would not send it to you for two reasons. One is that it is a commercial product, and I would not violate the copyright like that (I did once send someone a copy of some very old development software - after first getting permission from the copyright owners). Secondly, I think that encouraging you here is a bad idea. Unless I am misunderstanding you entirely, I think anything you do here will cause a great deal more harm than good. (If I /am/ misunderstanding you, please explain why.)

I hope I have helped by pointing out what I think is the /real/ problem here - that you are unqualified to handle this task - rather than helping you with your imagined problem of getting hold of the ancient editor.

You betcha. I'm using CW 4.0e, last copyright date 1996. I've been using it since 1994 from the Win95 days. I can make it sing. I've tried other editors over the years and I hate 'em all. I have a custom DLL that I use to enhance capability according to my work habits. Works great on 32 bit Win7. Starts up in a blink.

JJS

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, Nick wrote: Hi David, Rick and all others great person from this forum that reply me with this precious information Thank you so much for the precious information and recommendation I understand you regarding manual. No worry

The problem with hiring someone that is experienced with MASM and CodeWright is still not an easy option for me because i don't know (yet) no one that can do this for me. Payment is not a problem because my company can pay that service but where to find the person.

If here is someone that can support me with his services will not be a problem to deal with for his services.

I was tried to find CodeWright and lose my time and assume risk because i have no other options to solve this problem.

So, if here is some one that have are interested in a collaboration for this subject please write me at snipped-for-privacy@dalvcommunication.com

Thank you all for your time.

Regards Nick

As long as you are not using it any more, I believe that it is perfectly legal for you to transfer ownership of the software / software license. (The vendor may *say* you can't do that, but I don't think they have the right to prevent it, any more than a book publisher has the right to prevent you from giving away a book.) Of course, you should make sure you don't retain any copies of the software you have transferred. (Obviously, I am not a lawyer, so this is not legal advice.)

Am 02.10.2015 um 03:37 schrieb Nick:

I'm afraid you're going about this _entirely_ the wrong way.

No. Because you're clearly not at all experienced with this kind of work, you will have to _stop_ trying to do it yourself.

You're well on your way to turning yourself into the equivalent of a

5-year-old asking his neighbors for a fork and a knife, which he claims to need to pry open an electrical wall outlet to make it go faster.

Unfortunately I'm quite certain you will be not one bit less lost even with a valid copy of CW 5.1 and all its documentation at hand. Because having no CW 5.1 is not your actual problem. It's but one tiny, practically irrelevant aspect of it.

And those are precisely the reasons why you should _not_ try to do this yourself. I might go as far as to advise that _nobody_ should change anything in this running system. Making chances to an old beast like that should never be done on the live installation. Without a test rig, modifications to such an old beast are virtually guaranteed to fail. Badly.

And while at it, brace yourself (and the bosses) for the possible outcome that this system is found so out-of-date that it can no longer usefully be maintained. This horse may be dead enough that you should stop riding it.

You are correct. So long as the original owner does not retain an illegal copy, it is perfectly legal to transfer software to a new owner.

George

One thing I have not seen anyone ask yet: If this is a critical production environment, then where are the archived copies of the versions of the software and documentation used to create it ?

Was the configuration of the original development environment archived as well ?

If the original designers didn't archive the original environment, then how does the OP know that his instructions fully cover recreating the original environment from scratch ?

To the OP: this sounds negative, but it's designed to make you think and stop you from making a _really_ big mistake.

BTW, also to the OP, what happens when this hardware fails ? There's a strong argument to be made that you are effectively in that situation at the moment as it clearly doesn't meet current requirements and you don't appear to be able to change the setup so that it does.

Simon.

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Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP 
Microsoft: Bringing you 1980s technology to a 21st century world

Be careful about generalisations like that - it may not apply in different countries, or across national boundaries (and the OP has said nothing about which county he is in - guessing by his writing, English is not his native language).

You don't normally "own" the software - you merely have a license to use it, and there can be many restrictions in that license that are legally enforceable in at least some countries.

I'm glad you are trying to find someone to handle this job. But forget CodeWright - it is a complete irrelevancy here. What you want is someone experienced with MASM and assembly programming for DOS (perhaps embedded DOS).

To give another analogy, you are reading instructions about writing in Bulgarian using a fountain pen, and focusing on the pen rather than the language.

I'm glad you are trying to find someone to handle this job. But forget CodeWright - it is a complete irrelevancy here. What you want is someone experienced with MASM and assembly programming for DOS (perhaps embedded DOS).

To give another analogy, you are reading instructions about writing in Bulgarian using a fountain pen, and focusing on the pen rather than the language.

Hi I have files with original environment from the last system programming. So, is something will gone wrong, i will have to reload this. As i mentioned before, i have "only" to modify some labels from the some inputs from the systems. I mean "only" because i thought this seems to easy when you have original programming files.

YES, original configuration still existing.

*_The good news is that will be possible to get from an old installation a panel that is not use anymore and i will have possibility to create a test environmen*t_

Not the case. Original files existing.

If the hardware failed, i will have to replace this with new generation equipments that have user friendly -dedicated software interface that i am fully certified to program and i already commissioned more then 20 big systems buildings already :) Customer will have to cover all cost for replacement for replacement. Customer already know this problem with his 20 years old panels :)

sooner or later customer will have to migrate to new hardware system, but until then i want to help him to use this old system

Regards Nick

Am 04.10.2015 um 14:35 schrieb Simon Clubley:

Odds are it's these archived documents that Nick is trying to work his way through, but getting nowhere.

It's what 20 years of technological change will do: even if the documentation was (barely) sufficient back then, large parts of it may no longer be comprehensible to a new reader today.

Having the configuration would not necessarily help. Back then, one would have had to archive the actual development machine (and pray that it still boots if you turn it on today).

Hi Rick Since your last e-mail, here was some more coments and opinion

As today is Wednesday, I was want to remeber your by CW software.

Please let me know if your help is still available and how I go get it.

Tahnk you again all Regards Nick

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Rick

Hi Rick

My personal e-mail address is snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com

I hope admin will not restict my e-mail address. Sent before on forum my business e-mail address if someone was interested in a collaboration for support me with codewrite but e-mail address was restricted. If posting e-mail address is against forum policy, maybe admin will send only to you.

Once again, thank you so much. Regards Nick