If I were to try to replace the 2-gang variable capacitor in the a.m. bcb radio shown on the webpage below, roughly what varicap would I need to get, and how would I connect them? I'm not really so bothered about trying to employ a 2 gang potentiometer. TIA.
Substituting Variable Capacitor with Varicap Diodes
Jan 10, 2006
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Would I remove V.C. and do this?:
Coil---------C 0.01uF-------------Resistor 100K------ +ve | Varicap 300 odd pF. | Coil-------------------------------------------------------------- -ve | \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ Chassis
For AE coil and Osc coil.
Probably, pretty much, yeah. It'll still be parallel-resonant, and the .01 will have neglible reactance - if I was feeling tight-assed, I might put a ferrite bead at the left lead of the 100K, but where in the world do you get a 300 pF varactor? (That's the word that one of my tech school teachers said was the "proper" term, instead of "varicap". Sorry. ;-) )
Thanks, Rich
The variable caps in the gang are most certainly different values, in order to track over the different frequency ranges of the local oscillator and the radio frequency; the local oscillator is the lesser of the two.
Don
Digikey carries a 360 pf 20 V KV1520 and a 467 pf 16 V KV1560 by Toko. Well, they don't actually stock them, but they do list them. Less than $2 each, if you are willing to wait while they order some for you.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Grise" Newsgroups: sci.electronics.basics Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 12:56 AM Subject: Re: Substituting Variable Capacitor with Varicap Diodes
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Hmm, I thought that some (modern) BC band RX's were/could be tuned by varacters. Maybe I got things wrong? :c)
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I'd have to use special varacters like Phiips BB1122, BB212 and similar. Made especially for AM radios.
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I'd have to use Philips BB112, BB212 varactors. Special AM radio varactors.
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Thanks for the info. I actually paid a small fortune tonight on Ebay for a pair of (fairly rare) Philips BB212. Three pin devices with two varactors in them. I'll take apart, then rebuild on my own PCB, a generic 6 transistor "pocket radio" that I have. Luckily it had a tiny circuit stuck on the back plate. It will be interesting making things work. I don't think tracking will be a problem with a dual potentiometer. Tracking I think is a matter of padding capitors. Not sure though if each gang of these 2 gang variable capacitors you see in these small pocket radios are identical or not or specially devised to achieve tracking without padding etc. Mmm, I wonder if TOKO publishes data sheets on these things. I'll take a look.
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Noted. No data about either on those miniature variable capacitors that were (invariably) Japanese. I've searched using TOKO, TSURU, MITSUI (?), SANESU (from junkbox) - but no dice.
My circuit does not give the tuning capacitor values, but as you say I think if it did, each gang would have a different value. No doubt someone's shematic of a "pocket radio" or similar would confirm. Trying to acieve tracking is going to be ineresting. I cannot find a schematic though on the WWW of an AM radio tuned by varactors.
As to varactors, TOKO Europe has some data:
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One looks at: "Variable capacitance diodes for AM tuning"
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Noted. No data about either on those miniature variable capacitors that were (invariably) Japanese. I've searched using TOKO, TSURU, MITSUI (?), SANESU (from junkbox) - but no dice.
My circuit does not give the tuning capacitor values, but as you say I think if it did, each gang would have a different value. No doubt someone's shematic of a "pocket radio" or similar would confirm. Trying to acieve tracking is going to be ineresting. I cannot find a schematic though on the WWW of an AM radio tuned by varactors.
As to varactors, TOKO Europe has some data:
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Yep, here the values are:
Antenna caacitance: 3.0 - 141.6pF
Oscillator capacitance: 4.0 - 59.2pF
Tolerance ± 1.0pF +1.5% (at full rotation)
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Miniature 2 Gang Poly-film Variable Tuning Capacitor For Broadcast Band
Maximum capacity: Antenna section. 15 - 140PF
Oscillator section, 10 - 60PF.
Trimmer capacity: variable to over 12PF
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Miniature 1 Gang Poly-film Variable Tuning Capacitor For Broadcast Band
Maximum capacity: Single section tunes from 10 - 280pf
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Miniature Poly-film Variable Tuning Capacitor For AM & FM Bands
Antenna section AM 21 - 152PF
Oscillator Section AM, 10 - 74PF
Electronics australia did one in the earlt 80s it used a zn414 IIRC and a simple tuned circuit.
mk484 seems to be a similar device in current manufacture you might try getting the data sheet.
Bye. Jasen
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