Shock Pen (Shocking Device) Please help!

If you really want to shock someone, spend some time studying the basic concepts of electricity. This will probably shock your parents.

find an electronic cigarette lighter.... and dismantle it then reinstall the parts in an ink pen...use some of that indian ingenuity to fiqure how to make it switchable so you can shock people with it. Flash cameras and grill lighters also contain usabale parts to construct the pen... easier than trying to construct your own miniature induction coil that will fit inside of an ink pen......

A disposable flash camera has all the fixings for a good shock. Might even have enough punch to stop your heart.

First thx for all your replys :D

"Tom Biasi" Thx for the tip i just might do it (Just!!) and this already shock my parents so i don't belive i want to give them another shock that i actully read books :P

" snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com" thx m8 but i don't own a electronic cigarette and even if i manage to get it which is not that hard it would be 1) Costly 2) it could actully give a spark which will light stuff up or give a bad scar to the person rather then just a shock but will look into it.

"Si Ballenger" i don't know where to get a disposable flash camera if it even is sold and even if it is sold it would be costly ;) and on the topic of stoping my heart well i have come close to it quite often then one might thing and don't plan to do it on perpose and i don't have any heart problems so it's not quite likely to stop my heart that easy :D

and thx you all for replying the thing is and i am quite sure you people can help me in it is that i have a 50v capacitor and have created a series out of 2 AA battery and should get a 3v around from them since i can light a 3v LED light what i intent to do is to charge the capacitor and then with the capacitor light the LED light if that i can do then i think i can create a shock device.

so now my question should be

2) if possible can you tell me how to create a shock device from the stuff i currently have please? since i don't like to spend more on this project then i have to and would like the price of it to be as low as possible.

thx for all your replys and would be looking forward to reading more....

I don't think you could possibly make a shocking pen out of the materials you have. Just because the capacitor says it's 50 volts doesn't mean it will automatically charge up to that amount, a capacitor will only charge to the voltage you give it. each AA battrey will supply 1.5 volts, so if you connected them in series (the bump on one battery touching the flat end of the other) you will have a total of three volts. if you wanted to chagre the capacitors with the two batteries you would hvae to connect the two batteries in series and then the lead with a white line next to it on the capacitor to the flat end that has nothing else touching it and the other end to the bump that has nothing else touching it. the only way i know of to tell if the the capacitor is chargeing with an LED would be to add it in series. Connect the shorter lead of the LED to the flat end of the batteryand the longer lead to the side of the capacitor with the white line. when the whole circuit is connected the Led should quickly brighten, once the LED reaches full brightness, you know the capacitor is charged. check this site out for some information on capacitors.

Thx alot snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com seriously thx for the info i will be trying it out tonight. then can you please tell me what things i need to build my own shocking device i am very much into the project and would like to build one my self so if possible do tell me what things i would need to do it.

thx you very much

i'm sorry, i don't exactly know how these things work, but as people mentioned a lighter would work, they have small white squares called peziolectric devices that produce a 15+kv pulse, it won't burn people or seriously hurt them, as werid as it sounds i sometimes shock my thumb with them when i'm bored, there shock is that minor. you can buy a lighter from this site

i'm not sure if these guysship internationally but i have bought products from them and they are very reliable sellers. you could buy a pen, take it a part and then reasemble it or something like that.

thx m8 i am currently online if you want to talk or not your choice but in any case thx alot you have been alot of help

in doing some of my research i found certain things that if right i can make this shocking device rather easy

question

please tell me what is a coil exactly and i bet i can create a shocking device and once i create it i will post the tutorial of doing such a thing so others can learn from it.

thx you all for your posts.

I'd like to hear from the OP, why is it that you want to build a device that inflicts pain, however small, on someone else?

You're obviously not quite sure what you're doing. What if you err and produce something that will seriously injure or kill someone? What if you build just a mild 'tickler' but tickle the wrong person and he decides to break your face?

Geez...Whatever happened to cat whisker receivers and hot dog resistance cookers.

Lumpy

--- Recent studies done on victims of self-inflicted 'peziolectric' shocks have indicated that, along with the momentary diversion created by the shock, one of the unfortunate side effects is a progressive loss of mental acuity. This loss of acuity leads to feelings of ennui which only another 'peziolectric' shock will alleviate, albeit only temporarily. Unfortunately, the disease is progressively degenerative and, in its later stages, results in the victim becoming a "clicker", perpetually pressing and releasing the trigger on a specially wired, gas-depleted barbecue lighter for their "hit".

Some victims have reportedly, over time, become so blasé that they've progressed to "hitting the mains", but not much is known about that condition since they're usually found close to an electrical outlet, babbling incoherently, with a bobbypin in each hand.

-- John Fields Professional Circuit Designer

Ha, very funny. I'll make sure to not become an obsesive clicker, and trust me, i'm not going to be sticking a bobby pin in any wall outlets any time soon.

The simplest shock setup I used as a kid is a simple transformer and some batterys. Get a transformer out of an old AC powered radio. doorbell transformer, or something similar. If you hold onto the high voltage wires that would have gone to the wall and then start taping the low voltage wires that went to the radio across the batterys, a spark/shock should be generated on the high voltage side. A 120v/6v transformer use to make a little shock/spark for those kid purposes. You probably can charge up an old capacitor out of a car ignition with this to the point if you touch it you will have something to remember.

"John Fields" John it seems that you have extensive knowledge in this clicking business or have extensive experience in it thx for the heads up but i do like when i get a small shock trust me my pc is not totaly earthed and hence touching the back will get me a good shock, beside do you know what happens to your hand when you touch a good amount of voltage that comes out of your VCD Player ? the player i have in wiredly wired so even if it's of it has enough capacitors to give me a shock continusly for around 1 min and i plug it in and then touch it i have extensive knowledge on what will happen if i touch a VCD Player like that for nearly 30mins i tried alot of stuff and have good amount of knowledge that the CIA and KGB might want their hands on ;)

"Lumpy" Well m8 i am trying to do this as a project for a science thing not for shocking people but i will shock few friends with it once i have shocked my self more then 20 times with it and stated that it does not do any damage.

"Si Ballenger" thx for the info m8 but that's not simple i know more simple stuff to shock me lol what i am looking for is a shock thing that can work out of 2 AA Battery or 1 AAA Battery and is relatively small or campact. but thx for the info none the less

" snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com" you are sure to not become an obsesive clicker but a clicker none the less ;) don't worry your not the only one out their :D

thx for all your info people i think i am more closer to what i want to achive then ever and once i do i will post a tutorial and ofcource give credit to people that help me so do look for it but till then do tell me how to do stuff :D

thx once again

I have what looks like a cig lighter that uses back EMF from a coil. It takes a few times to get the message to the brain that you are being shocked, but eventually you get it. You end up pressing harder and I guess holding the button down longer each time until you realize there is something wrong with it or it's not a lighter.

So what kind of turns ratio in the X-former to get the back EMF potential would you need to feel the shock from a 1.5 volt batt? What potential would you need to feel shocked from such a device?

On the funny bone: My girlfreind got big time mad at me when she forgot about my shock pen two weekends ago. I told her the weight should have been a clue. She was not happy! I was in tears trying not to let her hear me laugh out loud. You know those violent shakes you get from holding laughter in? That'll teach to take all the pens out of my desk and not return them!

That sounds like Wagners hammer, a double pole relay wired to interrupt its own power supply:

o- NO / NC

-Ub o-----------------------o Gnd

As the relay energizes, the switch goes from normally closed (NC) to normally open (NO), interrupting the power supply to the relay. So the relay falls of, and the switch goes back to the NC position. This is repeated with a frequency determined by the mechanics of the relay. As a result you get an alternating voltage across the relay coil, and since the magnetic enery stored in the coil gets converted into an electrical impuls when the current is suddenly interrupted, that AC has a significant voltage. I once looked at the pulses generated with an oszilloscope and the spikes were quite impressive.

This method of high-voltage generation has three main drawbacks: a) The current drawn by the relay will empty the battery quickly. b) The relay will not make it for very long. c) The very steep impulses generated have high harmonics, which interfere with radio reception. Hence authorities tend to take a dim view of such contraptions.

Why don't you use the piezo striker from a barbecue grill? You'll be one hell of a zap, I promise!

"ChadMan" thx for the info m8 will look into that coil "You know those violent shakes you get from holding laughter in?" yup been there :D

"Dr Engelbert Buxbaum" only 1 thing for your m8 I AM NOT AN EXPERT AT THIS SHOCKING THING I DID NOT GET ONE THING THAT YOU SAID EXCEPT blah blah coil blah blah, blah blah blah blah. high-voltage blah blah blah. and i am not jokeing i actually read blah where i did not get you ;) :D but thx for the information blah i know what you said made more sence then this post but lets just say i am not supposed to know some stuff and your post comes in that stuff ;) but thx m8

"Lord Garth" i can't try your suggestion because i don't have a barbecue grill :( but you can try it one more time for me ;) would liked to get that hell of a zap but i guess it has to wait :( thx for the reply m8 :D

He's talking about one of these things:

Run all of the butane out, and peel back enough of the shroud to expose the electrodes.

Voila! Zapper!

Have Fun! Rich