Surely there must be a name for this subject.... an array of contactors in a row and column arrangement of 12 batteries to allow series and parallel connection as 12,24,36,48,72,96,and 144 volts etc? You cant always use the bottom battery in the stack to run on slow... the submariners must have worked all this out in the 40s....
rearrange batteries with relays?
Dec 13, 2005
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If its been done before and is a mature technique, I just need some keyword to look for it. If its a clever new idea of keeping batteries leveled by parallelling at lower voltages, I'd like to brainstorm on how to do it with mosfets or something more efficient than contactors. Do they make latching contactors that go to zero watts after latching?
They used four motors or a couple split-armature motors, and varied the speed (actually, torque) by connecting the armature windings in different combinations of series and parallel, and also by varying the shunt fields for fine control. There are quite a few combinations available, especially when a submerged submarine barely needs more than "fast" and "slow".
These days most electric motors will use pulse-width modulation or variable-frequency multiphase drives. Certainly much less complicated than switching banks of batteries around, and you can use feedback to make adjustments for dropping battery voltage.
What's the question?
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I've never seen an application for this type of device
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It looks like speed was controlled by the configuration of the motor windings
" The motor bus can be split for operation of the motors on each side independently of the other sides (BUS TIE OPEN), closed for parallel operation of both motor groups (BUS TIE CLOSED), connected to the battery bus for battery operating of the main motors (BATTERY BUS), and lastly, for series operation of all motors the positive side of one motor bus can be cross-connected to the negative side of the other motor bus, so that by proper closing of the motor contactors, all four motors can be placed in series for slow-speed operation on the battery bus (SLOW).
Either or both batteries are connected to the battery bus by closing their respective contactors which, in turn, are controlled by one operating lever. "
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Graham
OK, thanks for the info on how they did it in submarines. Back to the present. 12 batteries seems like a nice number because it has lots of divisors. You can get 12V with all 12 in parallel, 24V with 6 banks of
2 in series, 36V with 4 banks of 3 in series, 48V with 3 banks of 4 in series, 72V with 2 banks of 6 in series, and 144V with all 12 in series. Is 6 speeds enough for an electric car? (probably not), but I get the idea that when using regen, the computer thinks... hmmm slowing down from 30mph... motor putting out 26V.... reconfigure battery bank to 24V... slap motor on battery bank. Or however programmers make computers reason these things out.
The question of how many switches you need and how many poles and throws per switch would be a math problem. You could offer it up to a high school teacher or a professor at a local college as something for his students to work on, although an engineering professor might tell you it isn't practical to use batteries that way.
AIUI they use a buck/boost voltage converter these days.
Bye.
Jasen
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