questions on Class B audio amplifier

I took a look at this:

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It appears that this unit's max continuous power output on +/-12VDC at

4 ohms is 18W, if I calculated that right...

I wanted to build it, but I realized that increasing the voltage much beyond +/- 12V would exceed the TL082 op amp's maximum voltage spec.

If I used a couple of higher-voltage TLE2141Cs, good to +/- 22V, would this give a max continuous output power of 60W?

Since this is class B, and not Class AB... does the first op amp in the schematic above do a good job of removing the "dead time" between crossover? THD < 1%?

Does this Class B amp waste less power than Class AB (since only one transistor is on at a time)?

I'm guessing that all the "junk" (input stage, VAS) between the line input and output transistors on a typical power amplifier schematic serves pretty much the same purpose of the two op amps here...?

Thanks,

Michael

Reply to
mrdarrett
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Look at using a LM1875 Ic amp, that chip starts at 16 Vcc up to 60 Vcc.

if you drive it with a complementary supply, then it's 8..30 Vcc/Vee etc.. This chip does 20 Watts and can source/sink 4 Amps. that's enough to drive some heavy complementary trannies.

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Reply to
Jamie

Why do you waste your time like this ?

Please become an adult.

Graham

Reply to
Eeyore

** Nope - it is actually much less.
** Not a snowflake's chance in hell.
** No to both.

** Not when delivering any power into a load.

** It is a complementary BJT follower /current booster tacked onto the output of an op-amp.

Good of a couple of watts of lo-fi.

You are UTTERLY clueless.

..... Phil

Reply to
Phil Allison

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Same old shit, eh, Graham?

The guy is obviously having some difficulty wrapping his head around a
problem and isn\'t afraid to admit it, and instead of giving him a
helping hand, you give him a slap.

What a really mean bastard you are.

JF
Reply to
John Fields

Always show your assumptions.

You're assuming you can get 24V p-p out of that circuit -- review the base-emitter drop of a transistor, and the voltage drop of the op-amp before you make any promises.

See my comment above. Yes, but (but this is not the way to achieve that!!!)

Read the web page. If you have an oscilloscope to measure output -- try it. If you don't, try it out on LTSpice (which is free). Use their "generic 1-pole op-amp" with a GBW to equal the TL082, and try it at different frequencies.

In theory, yes, in practice -- what's your operating point? What class AB amp are you comparing it to? What frequency signal are you pumping through?

Yes, but a typical power amp sounds better....

--

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Reply to
Tim Wescott

Yes but it sounds shit.

Graham

Reply to
Eeyore

Nothing compared to you.

Reply to
Eeyore

And Universities are turning out kids even stupider than this !

Graham

Reply to
Eeyore

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You calculated it right, but the TL082 isn\'t a rail-to-rail output
opamp, so the output into the emitter follower pair would be
considerably less than 12V resulting in, consequently, less than 18
watts CW into the four ohm load.
Reply to
John Fields

"John Fields"

** Lets see what it *really* is then:

From the data on the TL082, with +/-12 volt rails and say 500 ohms load, the available output swing is +/- 7 volts.

Equates to 14mA peak.

From the data on the TIP41, Hfe = 50typ at Ic=1A & Vce= 4 volts.

50 times 15 = 700mA.

700 mA into 4 ohms = 2.8 volts peak.

Or 1 watt, rms continuos.

Long, long way from 18 .........

...... Phil

Reply to
Phil Allison

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So, you admit you\'ve met your master?

For years now, in an effort to try to communicate honestly, I\'ve tried
being kind to you, and cordial, and courteous, and objective, and
logical, and even friendly, but it seems that\'s all come to naught since
all you\'re interested in is denigrating anyone who brushes up against
your holy space and questions your opinions.

JF
Reply to
John Fields

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RMS? ;)

JF
Reply to
John Fields

Ah, numbers... goodie...

Where did you get 500 ohms for load?

Yep...

Thanks,

Michael

Reply to
mrdarrett

** See above.
Reply to
Phil Allison

You just described yourself beautitfully.

Graham

Reply to
Eeyore

It's a total heap of garbage. It's almost beyond a joke. If the rest of the site is like that then try to forget anything you 'learnt' there.

Graham

Reply to
Eeyore

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Why, thank you Graham!

And how do you think I described you?

Beau_tit_fully as well?

Freudian slip: When you say one thing but mean your mother.


JF
Reply to
John Fields

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My, my...

A blanket condemnation, but nothing to back it up with?

How typical of you!

 
JF
Reply to
John Fields

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Yup.

Nicely done. Thanks! :-)
JF
Reply to
John Fields

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