Power Routing Switch

Working on a gadget that uses a 12 volt motor (10 amp peak) and misc electr onics running on lower voltages. It is powered from an external PSU like a laptop supply, but 12 volts. There is also a sealed lead acid battery for backup when the power fails.

This design uses pairs of pFETs to route the power from the 12 volts input when present, or the battery when the line is not present. There is also a means of shutting down all power.

Initially when designing this there was a problem with shoot through from t he battery at a slightly higher voltage than the line power initially. The n I added the capacitors present on the motor circuit which helped. But th at made large surge currents in the capacitors when the power is shut on or off.

I'm hoping someone can make some suggestions. I've run out of ideas on how the time the turn on of one switch and turn off of the other while also br inging up the power slowly to reduce the inrush of the capacitors.

Here is the LTspice schematics. I didn't use anything not in the LTspice l ibrary.

Thanks,

Rick

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Put a resistor in series between the power input and the capacitors to limit the current. Sense the voltage on the caps - feed it to a comparator to drive a relay or mosfet (your choice) that shorts out the resistor when the voltage rises to whatever value you choose. You can use the same approach to disconnect the load until nominal voltage is reached, if necessary.

Ed

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