What is the purspose of pre-tinned wire?

Ever heard of "surface area"?

At 100% of its original efficiancy?

Thanks, Rich

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Rich Grise
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THAT DEPENDS ON OTHER FACTORS NOT RE3LATED TO THE CHARACTERISTICS YOU'VE DESCRIBED

SURFACE AREA VS COMPRESION CONNECTORS

WITH TEEETH GRIPS THAT ACTUALLY SINK INTO THE WIRE ANY SPECULATION CAN BE SAFELY CANCLELED DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE WIRE IS PIERCED AND MECHANICALLY GRIPPED INTERNALLY NOT EXTERNALLY

THOUGH THIS TYPE OFCONNECTION IS HARDLY USED WHEN SPLICING CABLES THE SERRATED TOOTH CONNECTORS ARE FAR BETTER OF COURSE BOLTS AND OTHER FASTENING DEVICES SHOULD BITE INTO TYHE CABLE FOR A SOLID AND SOUND CONDUCTIVE CONNECTION...TARNISHSED WIRE DOES NOT WELD WELL AND SHOULD BE CLEANED THOROUGHLY AND PREPARED BEFORE ATTEMPTING TO ATTACH WITH SOLDER

ALL TROLLS STINK AND SHOULD BE DECAPTIVATED FROM THIS USENET PROCEED AND EXECUTE KILLFILE OF ALL COX.NET USERS AND YAHOO HOMOEROTIC DIRTBAGS

OR THE RETURN OF THEE MIGHTY WONT VOLT IS EMMINENT

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Reply to
proteusiiv

If I've told you one, I've told you a thousand times. You are not my type. If you're that hard up go raid your mommy's hamper again.

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krw

Siad the total retard with the totally retarded and immature sig for all to see. That places your mental age at no more than 14, you retarded BlownBulb dumbfuck.

Reply to
StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt

The idiot that made the remark that "many NNTP users may all originate from a single IP" is about as dumb as it gets.

For one thing, they are required by law to uniquely ID ALL of their subscribers.

So to that idiotic asswipe... show us an example of your "several users, same IP" claim, jerk.

Reply to
StickThatInYourPipeAndSmokeIt

Him abrading the less than 1/10th of one mil tarnish off with an abrasive does NOT reduce the size of the wire by ANY amount that would be measurable in the setting it was being used in.

At most "hand made radio" frequencies... yes. And the term is efficiency. It comes from the word efficient. There is no word "efficiant".

Reply to
Dr. Heywood R. Floyd

You're an idiot, Roy.

Wrong, Roy... again... as usual.

Proof that you have no clue as to what skin effect is, much less how a cinch type connection functions.

You wouldn't know.

You're a babbling idiot, Roy.

Solderoing and welding are two different things, Roy. I wouldn't expect you to know that, however.

Go take a shower, dumbfuck troll.

Go fall on a sword then, idiot.

Just leave, Roy. And STAY the f*ck OUT! You stupid troll f*ck!

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Mr. Haney

This thread has gone on along time without seeming to go anywhere. In a hope to end it and move on, I did a Google search. My best immediate hit was:

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It gave my reason first--it is easier to solder. The second one was also commonly posted. The tin protects against copper getting oxidized if it sits on the shelf for a long time.

What this site did not say was that the coating is not actually tin. But I as well as many other posters use the term tin instead of solder.

Can we move on now?

Bill

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Salmon Egg

Tinning, in soldering nomenclature refers to dipping the stripped ends of a stranded wire into a solder pot after applying flux to it. "Pre-tinned wire" is a stranded wire where the entire length of the wire has been "tinned" (read solder impregnated) during manufacture, before the sheath (insulation) is added.

It is entirely different than TPC, which IS TIN plated copper wire.

Pre-tinned wire is made for manufacturing processes where labor costs have been pared down. It has nothing to do with shelf life other than how it relates to manufacturers and THEIR shelf life during a production cycle. It would oxidize at the same rate that a solder joint does, which is near NONE.

I doubt seriously that you will ever find RoHS "pre-tinned wire" anywhere as it is likely a very poor wire being tinned with RoHS solders.

PVC wire is more porous than tfe is, so it will allow oxygen to attack the wire, even though it is sheathed. TFE allows NO oxygen into the wire via the sheath, so it has a long shelf life regardless of the wire type inside.

So, TPC and SPC are true plated wire assemblies, and "pre-tinned wire" is a cheap way for a manufacturer to cut costs and give a cheaper product as well.

Pre-tinned wire is MORE susceptible to fracture due to flexing of the wire as it is actually a single strand as a result of the way it is made. TPC and SPC are true stranded designs and allow flexure without work hardening the copper inside.

Essentially pre-tinned wire sucks and is a lame choice for ANYONE trying to build a nice piece of equipment. The difference in cost is not enough to say that economizing by using it yields any benefit other than to expose the designer as a cheap, stupid bastard, at best.

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Dr. Heywood R. Floyd

On the bright side, DimBulb clearly isn't on a NATed IP, so one can confidently filter him out with it.

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Bob Larter

*yawn*
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Reply to
Bob Larter

Bwuahahahahahah! Filter boy doesn't have a clue.

Just so you know, idiot, this is all on the same cable modem.

I *could* also get on the wireless and simply grab up any number of currently unsecured networks in the local area, but that *would* be illegal, as opposed to the fact that I have done nothing illegal on my computer.

Om the bright side, I can prod you upside da haed ANY TIME I want to, idiot.

Reply to
Dr. Heywood R. Floyd

Gee, I never would've guessed, genius.

You should learn to speak English.

Can you? - I don't think so.

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Reply to
Bob Larter

I polished the roller coaster ATU in my 62 set with Brasso many years ago, but i think that was solid silver wire? My concern was to get a low resistance contact with the pick up wheel, rather than any surface effect.

Steve Terry

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Steve Terry

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Reply to
proteusiiv

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proteusiiv

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Reply to
proteusiiv

Shut up, Roy, you absolute retard.

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Archimedes' Lever

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