Thermal resistance of small SMDs versus Copper Pours
Dec 04, 2013 11 Replies
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Klaus Kragelund
Hi
I am looking into how much I can dissipate in a 0805 or 1206 resistor.
A discussion on SED about the topic a while back:
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In the discussion:
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There is a National datasheet somewhere that has a bunch of examples of various-shaped copper pours and their thetas. Maybe someone here remembers which it is.
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So what I am trying to find is that Natinal datasheet or app note. Google was not my frind after extensive search :-(
Anyone got that app note in their archive?
Cheers
Klaus
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Lasse Langwadt Christensen
Den onsdag den 4. december 2013 12.02.50 UTC+1 skrev Klaus Kragelund:
maybe this is the one?
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-Lasse
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Klaus Kragelund
Yes, it certainly has very good information on the subject, thanks :-)
It's kind of strange that apparently no information (including thermography plots) of dumping power into 0805 and 1206 resistors exists.
Cheers
Klaus
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John Larkin
We've done a bunch of work on this, keeping resistors cool with copper pours. You can push an 0603 to at least half a watt if you keep the end caps cool. The central hot-spot temperature of 1206 through 0603 resistors are about the same at equal dissipation if they are on big pours.
0805 on small single-side pours:
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1206 RTD:
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(note the delta-v cursor values on the first and last. I flubbed the middle one.)
To really cool a resistor, the pours should be on multiple layers, stitched by close-in thermal vias. Use as thick copper as you can, 1 or 2 oz.
There are AlN substrate resistors with astounding power ratings.
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Joerg
This is pretty good even though the resolution of figure 7 is poor:
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If you have to push performance within a given real estate consider side-contact resistors for increased heat transfer:
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Regards, Joerg
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Klaus Kragelund
That's a nice trick, using the RTD for both the power dissipation and measurement, will reveal the correct thermal resistance delay
Cheers
Klaus
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Klaus Kragelund
Good stuff, thanks for the link :-)
Cheers
Klaus
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John Larkin
You can figure out theta from those pics. I've done it a couple of times and never remember to save the numbers.
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legg
You may be looking for Nat Semi AN1025 for SOT23. AN1028 covers patterns for SOT-223 There was one for SOIC parts, but I seem to have mislocated it in electronic format.
Strangely enough, there are app notes with the same numbers from Fairchild.
RL
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legg
Also - check out IR AN994.
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legg
AN1029 is SO8
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legg
For a good time, google "Package and Thermal Information" to see some thermal images for different package patterns from Infineon.....
RL
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