Are the Santa Annas always offshore? I mean as in *invariably* offshore?
Just another good reason not to waste time trying to argue with him. Aren't you happier now you don't interract with the damn fool any more? It was a good idea, that deal we did, I reckon.
Indeed! It would appear the building codes badly need updating to take the natural, cyclical climate change which is taking place into account.
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john larkin
I think by definition, since it means wind coming from the direction of Santa Ana.
We call the wind from the east here The Diablo Winds, since they blow on us from the direction of Mt Diablo.
I might respond if he said something interesting and intelligent about electronic design, which is highly improbable.
When people excavated for all those houses in the hills in so cal, there were chunks of old charcoal in the dirt. Clue?
San Francisco had giant fires after the 1906 earthquake. Now we have over 200 cisterns that gravity feed high pressure water into a piping system dedicated solely to fire hydrants. And the system is still being expanded.
We live two blocks from a canyon that is a known fire hazard, one of maybe 10 around here. There were crews out there recently cleaning up brush and leaves.
They also hire goats.
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bitrex
Altadena is 60% non-white, providing high-quality emergency services to
60% non-white urban areas has never been an American tradition
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bitrex
Embers can fly up to 20 km depending on fuel and weather conditions, and during high winds fire breaks are useless.
Observe embers from this doorbell cam:
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Cursitor Doom
Well, I take your points on board. HOWEVER, there is still so many things which don't add up about these fires. Something stinks....
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Cursitor Doom
I don't doubt embers could have spread the original fires. What's puzzling is how the hell could they have got massive and out of control in the first place.
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Cursitor Doom
Bad idea. He'll start throwing in barbs and before you know it, you've been hooked and sucked in again. Old Bill's a master angler!
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Cursitor Doom
There's some dude called Gavin Newsome and he's done this *seriously* bizarre interview about the fires which throws up a *lot* of questions. The damn fire's not even out properly and he's said he's got some sort of plan to 'move forward' with some property speculators he's spoken with and the 'lawyers are already working on it' and so on! I'm thinking - 'WTAF??" This is all far too sudden. Has he got the agreement of the landowners for these plans? Has he even asked them?? I can't find the clip right now, due to the lateness of the hour and I have to go, but you *must* watch it! It's bound to be on YT somewhere.
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bitrex
2024 was globally the hottest year on record, and Los Angeles experienced its warmest summer ever, following a decade of record heat. It's mitigated somewhat when the winter rains show up this year they didn't show up.
The hills above Altadena/Pasadena have had lots of burns controlled and otherwise in recent years but after a certain percentage of the larger trees are gone (from climate change or logging/development or otherwise) they controlled burns don't do s*it except let even more flammable invasive species in. The hills up there were covered in foxtail:
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the stuff burns like newsprint
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john larkin
As noted, his saying anything intelligent about electronic design is extremely improbable.
And all he does is fling coarse insults, whether I respond to him or not.
He doesn't matter.
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john larkin
Those little sparks should not set houses on fire.
No puzzle: dry wind and lots of fuel.
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john larkin
Maybe because we have thousands of times more sensors than we had in previous millenia.
But an increase of a maybe a hundred milliKelvins does not explain the LA fires.
and Los Angeles
It takes really stupidity to let a house to be burned up by a grass fire.
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bitrex
The word "Pasadena" means "valley" in Ojibwe, the nearest Ojibwe lived somewhere around Minnesota in the 1800s. it was chosen by white settlers from Indiana.
Other than its relatively mild climate the area was probably not super-duper ideal for large-scale human habitation, experiencing windstorms droughts and fires pretty regularly. It's not strictly desert but it's close.
Sort of the 1800s CA equivalent of selling Florida swampland but capital does as capital does.
The Santa Ana winds make conditions more like a fire hurricane, unless the buildings are made of fireproof materials what are you gonna do, spray every burning ember that the wind carries?
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john larkin
It isn't hard to build a house that won't ignite from an ember. Or to site it somewhere that's not likely to have a firestorm.
A hundred years of putting out small fires pretty much guarantees big fires.
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Cursitor Doom
In that picture you posted, there were substantial patches of unharmed vegitation right among the ashes of countless buildings. It doesn't make sense.
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Bill Sloman
John Larkin's idea of "reality" is what his propaganda sources want to tell him.
Intense fires are unexpectedly good at igniting adjacent structures.
This was an unprecedented fire, and calling people criminally stupid for not anticipating how bad it was going to be is arm-chair quarter-backing.
The Great Fire of London happened in 1666 and Robert Hooke and Christopher Wren drew quite a few conclusions from it.
Australians learned quite a bit from the Black Friday on the 13th January 1939. That was 86 years ago - more than seven dozen years.
Commercial interests aren't always interested in putting into practice all stuff we know about making devastating fires less likely.
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Bill Sloman
If you like living inside a mutual admiration society and approving each other's fatuous, but ever-so-emotionally-satisfying nonsense.
We didn't get to find out about the natural cyclical variation until anthropogenic global warming made looking carefully at the climate a matter of urgency.
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That particular cyclic variation wasn't even named until 2000, when it was labelled by Michael Mann of hockey-stick fame.
The unnatural anthropogenic global warming the Cursitor Doom and John Larkin are foolishly skeptical about is an even bigger menace, but they prefer to ignore it.
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Bill Sloman
What's even more improbable is that John Larkin would pay any attention to it if it happened. He's here to harvest praise for his own insights, and feels hurt when he doesn't get it. He doesn't take part in our little squabbles about circuit design.
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Bill Sloman
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But you don't catch John Larkin with posts about circuit design. He is only interested in the circuits he has slung together himself.
Cursitor Doom doesn't have a clue about that, because he doesn't follow that kind of thread.
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Bill Sloman
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Anything that John Larkin could recognise as intelligent.
Anything short of fulsome flattery strikes him as a coarse insult.
Not to John Larkin. I don't flatter him about his circuit design skills, and that what he is hunting for here.
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