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Disposing of an old/ancient AMD64 Athlon Box whose motherboard died...

Pulled hard-drive:

Western Digital WD1600
WD Caviar
Enhanced IDE Hard Drive
Drive Parameters: LBA 312581808   160GB

Does an adapter exist to read this drive via USB?
        
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Re: OT: Old AMD64 Athlon Box, Hard Drive?
On 4/19/2017 11:57 AM, Jim Thompson wrote:
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Sure.  Find an external USB enclosure that supports an *IDE*
interface (newer ones are SATA).  Remove drive that is in the
enclosure currently.  Cable your drive to it.  Power up, etc.


Re: OT: Old AMD64 Athlon Box, Hard Drive?
On 4/19/2017 12:16 PM, Don Y wrote:
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First google hit:
<https://www.amazon.com/Insten-EXTERNAL-HARD-DRIVE-ENCLOSURE/dp/B004S62TBU>

I suspect if you ask your neighbors, at least one of them will have such
an enclosure sitting around the house, somewhere.  (if it is a 500GB or
larger, chances are that it is SATA)

You can *borrow* the drive/enclosure -- even if it has "live data"
stored within -- and swap the drives, extract *your* data, then restore
the original drive and return it.


Re: OT: Old AMD64 Athlon Box, Hard Drive?
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 12:20:41 -0700, Don Y

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Not likely.  I have retired to a smaller house in a neighborhood that
is roughly 194 tradesmen, and about 6 of us retired professionals or
execs... my monthly housing and utility costs have dropped from ~$6000
to ~$1700... so I can now live splendidly on my retirement even if I
don't do any consulting.

But I can easily get block laid, stuff welded, electricians,
handy-men, A/C servicemen and plumbers everywhere. ;-)

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This drive measures 4" wide by 5.75" long.  Is that officially a 3.5"
drive?
        
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Re: OT: Old AMD64 Athlon Box, Hard Drive?
On 4/19/2017 1:00 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
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Don't be surprised -- I'm the only EE in my neighborhood of ~200 homes
yet most of my neighbors have *fancier* kit than *I* do!  Certainly
*newer*!

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Yes.  The 3.5" refers to the size of the platter(s).


Re: OT: Old AMD64 Athlon Box, Hard Drive?
On 04/19/2017 03:16 PM, Don Y wrote:
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And you can store that amount of data on an almost-reasonably-priced  
microSD card nowadays.

Re: OT: Old AMD64 Athlon Box, Hard Drive?
On 4/19/2017 3:35 PM, bitrex wrote:
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50c/GB isn't really "cheap".

And, doesn't help you if your *data* is still trapped on spinning rust!

Re: OT: Old AMD64 Athlon Box, Hard Drive?
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Plenty of them.  Most that I have seen, have a USB connection on one
side, and both IDE and SATA connections on the other.

Some of these can support CD-ROM/DVD-ROM/-RW drives as well (these
drives typically speak ATAPI, which is effectively a SCSI command set
transported over IDE or SATA).  Others do not.

Under $10 on eBay.



Re: OT: Old AMD64 Athlon Box, Hard Drive?
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 11:57:10 -0700, Jim Thompson

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You just need a USB to IDE adaptor, unless it's a vintage IDE.
Like...
<http://www.cablestogo.com/product/30504/33in-usb-2.0-to-ide-or-serial-ata-drive-adapter-cable

I have an older Cables-2-Go adaptor at work and it always works as
intended.
It has the 40 and 44 pin IDE connector for 2.5" and 3.5" drives as
well as a SATA port.  2.5" drives don't have a Power Pigtail.

There are USB 3.0 versions out there, but I never tried one out.

Easy to use and the drive should just show up, unless it's toast.

Cheers

Re: OT: Old AMD64 Athlon Box, Hard Drive?
On Wednesday, 19 April 2017 19:57:19 UTC+1, Jim Thompson  wrote:
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a few bucks from china on amazon or fleabay.


NT

Re: OT: Old AMD64 Athlon Box, Hard Drive?
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:00:25 -0700 (PDT), snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

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Done!  From whence all good things are provided... Amazon >:-}
        
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Re: OT: Old AMD64 Athlon Box, Hard Drive?
On Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:28:58 -0700, Jim Thompson

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Success!  Drive came up perfectly using...

<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UO6C5S/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1>

Completely readable, no grinding noises, etc... so quiet I can barely
tell that it's running... so the motherboard flame-out did no damage.
        
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Re: OT: Old AMD64 Athlon Box, Hard Drive?
On Thu, 20 Apr 2017 04:57:10 +1000, Jim Thompson  

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$10 delivered


http://www.banggood.com/USB-2_0-To-SATAIDE-Data-Hard-Drive-Cable-For-HDD-Power-Converter-Adapter-p-1105778.html?rmmds=search

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Re: Old AMD64 Athlon Box, Hard Drive?
Jim Thompson wrote:
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They cost about $12 and include a PSU.  Usually I leave the PSU at home  
and just use power from the old PC.




Re: OT: Old AMD64 Athlon Box, Hard Drive?
Jim Thompson wrote:
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   Yes; an USB adapter that handles IDE as well as SCSI:  "Prudent Way"  
is the key name.
   See  
https://www.amazon.com/Prudentway-PWI-U2-2535-USB-SATA-Adapter/dp/B006UGU4RM?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-d-20&linkCode=xm2&camp20%25&creative16%5953&creativeASINB0%06UGU4RM
   The BabyBird (GooGull) has many hits.


Re: OT: Old AMD64 Athlon Box, Hard Drive?
On 19/04/2017 19:57, Jim Thompson wrote:
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Do you want to do a one time read and save data to a USB stick or want  
to put it in a box so that you can mount it anytime in the future ?  
(assuming the heads don't stick to the platter through lack of usage)

Best buy is probably a IDE/SATA capable USB drive interface and a basic  
PSU if you just want to be able to power it up and mirror it. I have one  
that permits hardware write protect of the external mounted drive - very  
useful when you don't trust the machine it is being read on.

Something like this (I have an earlier model same maker)

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/startech-usb-20-to-ide-or-sata-adapter-cable-for-25-35-ssd-hdd-led-status-indicators-usb-20-host-int

The OS and applications are unusable without the original PC so the  
total amount you will need to backup probably <128GB ($30 USB stick).

Otherwise there are any number of boxes that will support USB but you  
will need to buy a legacy box for IDE support. new ones all SATA now.

Do you not have any spare PCs that support IDE drives with a spare slot?

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Re: OT: Old AMD64 Athlon Box, Hard Drive?
On 4/20/2017 12:37 AM, Martin Brown wrote:
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And, there are legacy boxes that will crap out at the 127GB limit!
I.e., examine the capacity of the drive before installing it
(verify it to be "160GB"); then, examine it inside the OS to
verify it can be seen in its entirety.

Hint:  if OS claims the drive isn't formatted, its probably not seeing
the entire drive (assuming it was, in fact, formatted)

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