New program to design PCB 3D available !!!

On a sunny day (4 Apr 2007 05:42:47 -0700) it happened snipped-for-privacy@freemail.it wrote in :

I am trying to run in in Linux wine (windows emulator), but I get a wine error: grml: ~/eagle/test # wine Aq3d.exe Warning: unprotecting memory to allow real-mode calls. NULL pointer accesses will no longer be caught. fixme:ddraw:VGA_ioport_out Unsupported VGA register: 0x03d9 (value 0x00)

Are you going to release source? I like the idea of a 3D display. Povray is available both for Linux and MS Windows. If you release source I am willing to try to make a Linux version. The Aq3d.exe itself is not using any special graphics features I suppose?

You haven't done your homework. Check out Eagle3D:

The demo on Matthias' homepage looks a billion times better than yours (I can only judge by the demo images), and as far as I can see his Eagle3D system only uses ULP and Povray files and no additional program, which makes it operating system independent.

Your time may be better invested in adding libraries to Eagle3D.

robert

Do you know Eagle3D?

robert

On a sunny day (4 Apr 2007 13:31:29 GMT) it happened Robert Latest wrote in :

No I did not.

I will download it and try it out. Thank you.

On a sunny day (Wed, 04 Apr 2007 13:52:47 GMT) it happened Jan Panteltje wrote in :

OK, got it working, at least on the headers example in Eagle 4.0.9re :-)

To all who would use Cadsoft EAGLE: BEWARE.

Cadsoft's most-recently-implemented (DRM) strategy has them viewing all of their users as thieves

--those using the fully paid version as well as cracked versions.

**The Downside of EAGLE** by Markus Zingg *-*-website+reuse+paying.*+*-I-will-switch+cracked-*+*.would.not.help.*+zzz+after-*-*-version-*+copied+*.*.unlock.*.designs+*-*-*-*-exchange-*-*-*-*-third-party+reused+qq+*-*-single-bit-*-*-*-*+useless+*-*-*-projects-could-no-longer-be-opened

What is the magic incantation to get it to run?

Ed

It seems that the Eagle program has a hardcoded-in list of all serial numbers that are known (to CadSoft) as having been cracked at some time. This serial number is stored within schematics and boards as well, and whenever Eagle opens a file it checks if it hasn't been created with a cracked version, and if so, refuses to open it.

What I didn't know was that this scheme applies to cut-and-pasted files as well (which of course it has to in order to work efficiently), and apparently (as can be inferred from the newsgroup post snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com) each file contains a list of all serial numbers of programs that ever had to do with it or portions of it.

Now I've never been bitten by any of this because I've never used stuff from cracked versions, but what puzzles me is CadSofts refusal to manually unlock the files for a paying customer. They've always struck me as very helpful and supportive.

The lesson from this is: When you get Eagle stuff from other people (even if they have a license), run it through the scripting ULP and rebuild the schematic in your own copy of Eagle.

--Daniel

No idea. Never used it. How 'bout checking the docs?

robert

Haude Daniel wrote:

Am I behind the curve? Has the version-specific stuff been resolved/patched?

*-remove-*-problems-if-*-files-become-damaged+*.*.*.*.*.*.*.script.to.regenerate.*.project+export-board.ulp+changes+difference+zzz+export-schematic.ulp+qq+*-create-*-text-file+uu+release.notes

Links?

Jan Panteltje ha scritto:

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Uhm, this program is written in in Clipper and don't uses graphics interface but DOS only. It works well with Microsoft OS, but linux (and wine) no. I don't know why. At this moment i don't release source files. Bye.

clipper is a xBase compiler (compiles dBase code into executables) It should run in linux DOSEMU.

Also I think there's an xBase compiler for linux.

looking at the example raytrace I notice three things

one that I like "MALASIA" on the 7805 - nice touch. and two that I don't

there's no surface texture on the PCB, real FR4 has a ripple finish caused by the weave not a perfect mirror finish.

there's no holes (or the holes are exact fit for the pins) and also apparently no step on the pins. the pot legs have no rivets, ant tne punced step at the top doen's go through the can , the bends in the TO220 pins aren't realistic either,

also I don't see any resistors, or othert axial components.

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Bye.
   Jasen

I did that before I posted. And checked the pre reqs and downloaded the other software it requires. And threw in the towel. :-( Then posted, hoping ...

Ed

On a sunny day (Fri, 06 Apr 2007 04:06:05 GMT) it happened ehsjr wrote in :

1) you need eagle installed, 3.55, 40.0 or later 4.6 2) put the demo in examples I think it was. 3) run the correct ulp from eagle, this creates a ..pov file. 4) install povray. 5) copy the .pov file to the same place the inc files are. 6) run povray

I was testing in /root/compile/eagle3d/eagle3d/examples/ run the 3d40.ulp or 3d41.ulp from eagle on an example. cd ../povray cp ../ulp/TRANSISTORS_DIODES_CRYSTALS.pov ./ perhaps you need more fonts, like courdb.ttf: locate courbd.ttf cp /root/.fonts/courbd.ttf ./ ~/compile/eagle3d/eagle3d/povray # povray +W1280 +H1024 JAZ_NEW_PARTS.pov make a jpg: povray +W1280 +H1024 JAZ_NEW_PARTS.pov +OJAZ_NEW_PARTS.pov.jpg

2 minutes.

Thanks Jan. Still no joy, but further along. My Eagle (4.15) isn't finding the dat files. I think I may need to start from scratch - unistall both Eagle & Egle 3D & re-install. :-(

Ed

Hi Jasen, I am "Giovanni Di Maria" thank you very much for your suggests. I will put your name in file THANK.TXT (please give your first name and last name to my email address).

I like your isea and as soon as I will modify the program, as follow:

1) I will add a ripple on board, to simulate the non-perfecly specularity;

2) I will add the holes (one for each pin) !!!

3) Perhaps i'll improve the TO220' quality.

( The resistors are READY!!!). Wait for them. :-)

Thank YOU.

Hi Jasen thank you very much for your suggests. I will put your name in file THANK.TXT (please give your first name and last name to my email address).

I like your isea and as soon as I will modify the program, as follow:

1) I will add a ripple on board, to simulate the non-perfecly specularity;

2) I will add the holes (one for each pin) !!!

3) Perhaps i'll improve the TO220' quality.

( The resistors are READY!!!). Wait for them. :-)

Thank YOU.

Hi Jasen, I am "Giovanni Di Maria" thank you very much for your suggests. I will put your name in file THANK.TXT (please give your first name and last name to my email address).

I like your isea and as soon as I will modify the program, as follow:

1) I will add a ripple on board, to simulate the non-perfecly specularity;

2) I will add the holes (one for each pin) !!!

3) Perhaps i'll improve the TO220' quality.

( The resistors are READY!!!). Wait for them. :-)

Thank YOU.

On a sunny day (Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:49:12 GMT) it happened ehsjr wrote in :

Hi, could you load the demo board in your version of Eagle? If so 3d41.ulp should run? Re-install reminds me of MS software...