need someone to build a test unit

I want to build a small unit for testing purposes that would consist of a three-foot metal antenna with a negative charge source. The antenna would be negatively charged at a constant rate by the source and the antenna would bleed electron charge to the air at a constant rate. The antenna will actually loose charge in quanta, that is to say it will not be at a flat rate but will be in measurable steps. This x-quanta or step action should be measurable if we place a frequency metering system parallel or in line with the charging line that extends from the source to the antenna. When the antenna looses charge by x-quanta the charging source will replace that lost charge in steps of x-quanta. Charge seeks a state of equilibrium and the charging line will have the same charge density as the antenna and will show a step-drop of x-quanta in sequence with the antenna step-loss action.

What I need and will pay for is a complete unit as outlined above. Now then does anyone have the expertise or knowledge to build such a unit?

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I think you'll find that this was done by Roy Orbison in about 1910 but it all got updated by Demis Roussos in the mid 70's until he lost the plot when SpecSavers discontinued Nana Mouskouris frames.

Last time I checked Elvis was dead and I think Roy is as well. It has something to do with Olive Oil.... Go Figure.

DNA

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Genome

Nobody on this planet, for sure.

John

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John Larkin

Roy Orbison wasn't born yet in 1910, he was born in 1936... and died of a heart attack in 1989.

...Jim Thompson

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Jim Thompson

Based on your description, who could know?

Why is the antenna three feet long (914.4mm)?

I presume that you expect the whole of the antenna to be charged to some fairly spectacular voltage - there's not a lot of point in making it three feet long if you are looking for voltages of less than about

2.7megavolts.

This sort of voltage has a tendency to discharge as a spark, which wouldn't exactly bleed charge into the air.

It the antenna has a sharp point, and if the surrounding metal work shaped the electric field such that the steepest field gradients coincided with the sharp point, you might be albe to set up a stable corona discharge, which would bleed charge to air (on its way to you positive electrode.)

Controlling the rate of discharge might be difficult. and making the discharge occur in finite lumps of charge - unless you are willing to accepte 1.6E-19 coulombs as your quantum of charge - might be positively demanding.

What are you actually trying to do?

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bill.sloman

Why?

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Homer J Simpson

"Jim Thompson" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

OK, so it was his older brother who did that sort of stuff and he was the creative one who wrote shit music with shit lyrics and sang it with a shit voice with a shit guitar in front of a shit band. Twang Twang.......

I assumed he had Nana Mouskouris glasses to look at small things.

It's not as if it's not an easy mistake to make!!!!!

DNA

My mistake

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Genome

A "load bag" noise ?:-)

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Jim Thompson

and why is it anymore complicated than a 3 foot wire with a point on it connected to the negative terminal of a 9 volt battery whose positve terminal is connected to gorund?

What is the rate of charge you wish to dispense?

Mark

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Mark

I'll do it based on what you've written here, in 6 months, for $24,000.00. $8000.00 to start, $8000.00 at three months, (on approval of progress), and $8000.00 upon delivery; plus you learn the difference between "lose" and "loose".

I have a real email and a bogus email - the bogus one (which I can log onto googlegroups with if I want to) is snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com. To make a real email out of that, elide ard.

Cheers! Rich

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Rich Grise

Ok, then tell us what a LOUD bag is? Some drunken broad screaming obscenities at the staff because she can't find her drink?

You still haven't set that clock.

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Michael A. Terrell

Michael,

He meant "lewd bang".

Bob

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we have a casino near by (last time i went that is) that has a statue of an indian holding a hatchet. the upper floor is cut out with a high voltage surrounding ring. at given times of the day, a charge builds up and generates a lighting bolt that discharges from the upper floor, to the hatchet's head. below it, is a water a fountain.. its a very interesting display of high voltage and makes for a load bag noise.

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ok, i miss fired on that one. LOUD.. sorry about that.

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Jamie

So he's still got the drunken broad in his plans? :)

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Michael A. Terrell

I don't know what the "x-quanta" is, but Milliken did this experiment about a century ago and won the nobel prize. He called the "x-quanta" the electron, BTW. The "antenna" that you seek was a little drop of oil.

The scientific demo companies will sell you a complete high-school-or-introductory-college-physics type demo unit (generally called the "Milliken oil drop experiment") that does this.

Tim.

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Tim Shoppa

You assume too much. Foget what you think I might be using this for and read the text.

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