modeling trafo

May 14, 2011 6 Replies

I'm trying to find the quickest way to account for saturation of a transformer in LTSpice.



The reason I need to include saturation in the model is because it's a blocking oscillator.



There's a nonlinear transformer model in the library at the yahoo group (the Chen model), but it includes a couple of parameters related to the hysteresis loop.



I don't know what I would use for the hysteresis parameters and would like not to have to use those extra parameters, if at all possible. No B-H loop, just a transformer that can saturate, but has no hysteresis.



There's an "arbitrary inductor" model that takes saturation into account while ignoring hysteresis. If I could use this model in a transformer by simply coupling two inductors it would make my life easy, because I have the volt-seconds figure for the trafo I intend to use.



This wiki shows the inductor model:



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So I tried putting two arbitrary inductors in my schematic and coupling them. LTSpice tells me I can't use coupling with arbitrary inductors. Same result when I try to couple an arbitrary inductor with an ideal inductor.



So I'm still at square one. Do I have to use the Chen model, or is there an easier way to do this?


looked at this? :

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-Lasse

Look in folder LTC\LTspiceIV\examples\Educational for NonLinearTransformer.asc

See if that will help you.

Cheers, John

That's good. It says you can model a transformer that saturates by shorting the input of an ideal transformer with an inductor that saturates.

Yes, it seems so. Does that mean that the example is useless?

I ran the model and looked at the current into the magnetic device. It looks like a classical saturating magnetic device.

Am I missing something?

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LT wiki has a good page on using the Chan model with multiple winding. You make a non-linear model of the core, then use fairly simple sub circuits to put windings on it.

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Cheers,

Fred

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