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John Larkin
Then what stops them?
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John Larkin
Yup. The slope is just about 1 ohm. The dynamic impedance of a PN junction is 1 ohm at 25 mA.
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Jim Thompson
Closer to 26mA ;-) ...Jim Thompson
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1 ohm is a pretty good number for a small junction. I measured a
2n3904 about the same.
Neat, how the resistance goes to ~1.5 ohms at ~450K.
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Jim Thompson
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Precise small-signal slope (assuming no resistive part) is kT/qI, or ~26/I(in mA) at 300°K ...Jim Thompson
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Jupiter Jaq
Tada!
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Not at all, more like 30 seconds. Sometimes i have other things to do besides read Usenet. Tough it out pumpkin.
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Yup, the ohmic part has a positive TC.
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JW
[...] the usual whinging.
Yawn.
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Jim Thompson
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Huh? It does, but George was taking about the kT/qI portion...
450/300=1.5 ;-) ...Jim Thompson
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Opps, I was talking about the resistive part. It should also scale with the absolute temperature, if the resistance is from some hunk of 'metal'.
Figure 3 in the 1n4148 data sheet that someone linked to.
(I'd just been thinking about the Wiedeman-Franz law from Jamie's MAF post.)
George H.
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Yes, I thought you were. JT's comment didn't make sense.
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John Larkin
That's British for "whining", isn't it? How is that pronounced?
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Michael A. Terrell
Sometimes a troll is just a troll...
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.
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Jim Thompson
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Why? Because you don't understand kT/qI ?:-)
Perfect diode, no resistive term, DYNAMIC impedance scales linearly with temperature (°K). So a perfect diode operating a 26mA at 300°K has a DYNAMIC impedance of 1 Ohm; and 1.5 Ohm DYNAMIC impedance at
450°K.
Perhaps someone would plot 1N4148 forward drop on LOG paper so we can easily see the bulk R breakpoint (and the _dirt_ at low currents, the ISR coefficient in the model). ...Jim Thompson
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Jim Thompson
I find it easier to just killfile krw. ...Jim Thompson
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I could only get to 10mA. (The most my current source will do.) So not into the ohmic region. The straight line is drawn by eye.
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Various model cards show D1N4148 with Rs (bulk resistance) = 0.56 to
0.8 Ohms ...Jim Thompson
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Jim Thompson
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Semiconductors are notoriously difficult to measure. You have to do pulse testing to keep it from moving during the measurement. ...Jim Thompson
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