Kind of on topic - - Remove magnet from speaker

Jul 01, 2020 11 Replies

I saw this in a dumpster and was impressed by it's 1000 watt rating and it's strong magnet.



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It has a VERY strong magnet and I wanted to salvage just the magnet.



I removed the screws, but the magnet is not coming off.



Any suggestions as to what to try next?



Best regards,



Andy


Hammer!

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Perhaps a non magnetic mallet or a lever of some kind. Be careful here such magnets can do nasty things to human flesh!!

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** You must remove the cone and find the bolt holding the basket onto the magnet assembly.

FYI speaker magnets consist of TWO parts.

  1. The ferrite ring magnet/s supply the magnetic energy.

  1. The mild steel parts concentrate the magnet's field by many times into the gap the voice coil ride up and down inside.

..... Phil

I've seen overloaded drivers that were so overheated that the magnet fell off - some not so rugged epoxy adhesive was used - along with wishful ratings on the labelling.

So, heat. I'm not sure how alnico holds it's bias under moderate limits. The magnets are formed from raw material by application of an external field. A very high field for a short time.

I assume it can be degraded by mechanical shock, heat or other abuse.

RL

Sometimes they are glued. I had good results after leaving the assembly cooking in a stove.

The magnets look like ferrite, so temps of upto 180C should be safe, and that's more than enough to soften any epoxy they may have used for assembly to the yoke. Be sure to use eye protection when fussing with magnets like that.

looks like two ferrite-ceramic ring magnets, this type are very strong compared to AlNiCo, but nothing real exciting

Connect it to a stiff 60VAC supply and see if it does actually handle something like 1000W

Oh, for the magnets, take the cone out an use a wheel puller (or similar tool) to depress the centre pole.

Jasen.

Heat is well know to demagnetize materials by some amount and often inelastic.

I'll defer to Phil on exact construction details but most likely the magnet was installed by sliding it on from the side, so it should go back off that way. Take two short 2x4" boards (or similar), lay on one top of the other with wide sides touching and one pair of ends aligned, and then put in one long screw near those ends. Don't tighten it all the way up so the boards can pivot, and you now have kind of giant pair of scissors. "Open" the scissors and lay the speaker in so that the magnet rests on the bottom board and the top board contacts the speaker frame, and close the scissors. Depending on the magnet strength this can get fancier, for example cut a round hole in one board and insert the magnet for more control, or cut a small notch in each board so the speaker won't try to slip away, etc. You might be able to get away with some heat if there is glue to soften, but my expectation is that any hammering and you might as well put it back in the dumpster now and save the work :-). Someone asked how a magnet can harm the skin - that comes with the rest of the tissue damage if you let part of you get pinched between the magnet and a piece of iron or steel. My favorite NdFeB magnet supplier is kjmagnetics.com. They have lots of fun videos on youtube where they let magnets fly into other magnets and steel plates, with various things in the way.

Regards, Carl Ijames

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** All magnets have a " Curie " temperature - at which all magnetisation is lost. Usually is is not self recovering. However, for speaker magnets that temp is beyond the range of a domestic oven.

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When disassembling speaker magnets from their iron parts, repairers use a de-magnetising electromagnet. Same one used for magnetising during manufacture but operated in reverse.

Such electromagnets are brute force devices, big and heavy employing rectified mains current for brief periods.

If the OP needs a strong magnetic field - he should leave the damn thing fully assembled as I already posted.

F*ck dopey OPs who will not say what they actually want .

..... Phil

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** LOL - what rubbish.

Ferrite ring and Alnico tube magnets are sold to speaker makers UNMAGNETISED !! It is near impossible assemble a speaker magnet otherwise.

The last step in manufacture is to place the magnet assembly (with cone installed ) in a powerful electromagnet and MAGNETISE it.

The working part of a speaker magnet is made of *soft iron* fully saturated by the energising magnet used.

..... Phil

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