Joining analog and digital ground

Oct 21, 2009 23 Replies

That is pretty much guaranteed not to work. OTOH I do have an appreciation for engineers doing that because it brings me consulting assignments :-))

One of those case, four ADCs and one ground connection point, noise galore, frustration levels at 110%, CEO pacing up and down the lab, required roughly 22 hours of travel to get there ...

It's perfectly ok to split the grounds and provide narrow jumper points every half inch or so. Then when the (almost guaranteed) disappointment sets in it's easy to solder them all shut. Or place zero ohms resistors if already in production. Occasionally a split ground can work. Maybe. But you might not pass smog at the EMC lab.

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Every chip maker thinks his chip is the center of the universe. So every power pin on their eval board has two ferrite beads and four caps ranging from 100uF to 100pF, and they want analog and digital grounds that meet only under their chip.

The fun begins when you have to lay out a non-trivial board with, say, more than one chip that wants the grounds to meet only under it.

Sometimes I think that the dumbest interns at some chip manufacturers are assigned to write the datasheets and do the eval boards.

And eval boards don't have to pass EMI tests.

Except for boards with truly isolated channels, I have never done a board with separate analog and digital grounds. I've never wanted to have two ground pours at different potentials.

John

So what you are saying is that chip makers are like politicians?

Seriously, I have seen a solution where you had this: DGND, AGDN1, AGND2, AGND3 ...

The channels were as "quiet" as Candlestick after the 49ers scored.

Which is kind of interesting since many of those are used by hobbyists at home.

Same here. My only split ground boards were for things like ECG, intravascular ultrasound, gear for markets where stuff can go kabloiue, and so on. Where standards usually prescribe the level of isolation and creepage distances. Even if not, because I always assumed that even seasoned doctors could panic and apply the defibrillator before unplugging stuff.

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I'm sure you both are right.

I did anticipate the possibility of having to do modifications. I knew this board is my guinea pig and it was laid out with that in mind.:)

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