Help: Connecting Leads to Pins

Feb 10, 2007 44 Replies

Ewww! There goes the soldering thing again. :-)

There is no existing circuit board involved here. I just need a support for the terminal blocks, and had intended to use stripboard providing the hole spacing would allow the pins through. Or perhaps I can find the stripboard material without holes and make them myself.

Thanks.

Darren Harris Staten Island, New York.

Arrogant? You want to do a hell of a lot of extra work to keep from learning to solder.

Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I\'ve got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida

On Feb 11, 7:40 pm, "Searcher7

I'm assuming that the pins on your connectors have the standard spacing of 1/10 inch or multiple thereof. The prefab perforated board you buy will have hole spacing of 1/10 inch. Get the kind of perfboard that has a copper pad around each hole; Radio Shack may have it, or order from a hobby house like allelectronics.com or use one of the big suppliers like digikey or mouser. Along with the perfboard, buy yourself a soldering iron and some rosin- core electronics solder. For your job, the solder diameter isn't critical. You may be able to go to Radio Shack and buy a little plastic tube with coil of solder in it instead of a whole half-pound roll. I'm only speaking from having glanced at the photo of the terminal strip you posted, but those pins look like they're meant for inserting into printed circuit board holes and soldering into place. That is their purpose. If you can do that, it will work. The other ideas, like wire wrapping, crimping, drilling etc. are just going to give you a big ice cream headache. There might be a way to achieve a firm mechanical mounting for the terminal strips without soldering them to perfboard, but you will have to continue looking for ideas on that, because the alternatives mentioned so far are going to be more trouble for you than simply soldering the pins to perfboard. Whereupon your terminal strips will have a mechanically sound mounting substrate, as it were, that you can attach to standoffs or such, and have a rigid assembly.

I just wrote a long post about soldering, but here's another idea... Drill a hole in each end of the terminal strip and mount it on standoffs. You might be able to just remove one terminal screw from each end of the strip and use the screw hole. Just cut the pins off with wire cutters. If the terminal strips are a bit flimsy you might have to put some material under them for support. Or instead of standoffs use a block of (electrically insulating) material under the terminal strip, and just screw the terminal strip down (after cutting the pins off, of course).

Yeah- but you said "You haven't read what I wrote" and not anything about a preferred way of doing things. So in addition to being an arrogant passive/agressive type, you are combative.

If that's the case then the answer is it's impossible to attach leads of that size to that terminal strip...except possibly by individually twisting the wires around the "posts" and then using electrical tape.

There are barrier strip lugs that are bent 90 degrees, so the end can go through a hole next to the barrier strip so you can solder to it "underneath".

There are also billions of header connectors out there - try a goolge on "AMP MODU".

Good Luck! Rich

Then wire-wrap is not applicable.

What's wrong with just soldering them?

Thanks, Rich

The "nameplate" is actually just an escutcheon; it goes underneath the block, and the slots across the bottom can act as a drill template; that's also where the pins go through.

And you just solder your wires to the pins, or use a PCB, and solder them to the pads just like any other component.

Cheers! Rich

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Cheers! Rich

He doesn\'t know how to solder and he refuses to learn. No kidding!

It's hard to tell from the picture, but I think the pins look to be too long to be intended to be (too many "to be"s there...) soldered to a PC board, so they were probably intended to be used with wire-wrap, or some form of connector that could be crimped to the wire. Wire-wrap will only work with solid wire, and with the right tool, so you probably should solder the wires to the pins - with a little practice, it should be easy to make a neat joint.

First tin both the pin and the wire - heat the pin or wire, and allow solder to flow over it - then place the wire on the pin (in-line with it), and heat both parts so the solder flows together. I would cover the resulting joint with a bit of heat-shrink tubing for neatness.

If _really_ don't want to solder, go with the other suggestion to use crimp terminals on the wires. You should be able to get four wires (or terminals) (two each side) under the screw.

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You must be troll #3?

There is more than one reason not to solder, but I don't have to tell you.

In the first post I asked about wire wrapping and crimp-ons. Not soldering. I ruled it out for my own reasons.(Which of course is my decision to make).

But I'd like to thank everyone else who gave me a better idea of what I'm dealing with.

Darren Haris Staten.Islander, New York.

Thanks a lot.

I'll have to checek Muser or Digi-key to see what they have.

BTW. Here are the same pins I have:

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Darren Harris Staten Island, New York.

So, the ability to solder for over 40 years makes me a troll? Plonk.

Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I\'ve got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida

Oh, please do! Tell us one reason besides terminal laziness or just plain stubbornness.

Thanks, Rich

I guess you're troll #4.

I find it odd(and immature) that certain individuals get angry and start name calling because I don't want to do things their way.

But keep stomping your feet. It'll change nothing.

Darren Harris Staten Island, New York.

Show me exactly where it is in this post that you percieve "name calling" or "stomping [my] feet".

All I did was ask for an example to back up your assertions.

Apparently, you're just a troll who's too lazy to learn to solder.

Maybe you should go into politics.

Good-bye and Good Luck! Rich

No, being a troll makes you a troll. I never said I was doing a hell of a lot of owrk to keep from learning to solder.

Darren Harris Staten Island, New York.

Oh... You were not referring to me when you mentioned "laziness" and "stubbornness"?

And I made no assertions. I was attempting to get as much info as possible about wire wrapping and crimping for my purposes. If you and certain others have a problem with that, then you should not have posted at all.

Darren Harris Staten Island, New York.

Well, you've has us all running around in circles for almost a week now, insisting that somebody tell you what you want to hear, rather than the right answer.

Good-Bye. Rich

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