era-5 gain problem?

Dear All,

I'm using a couple of era-5 mmic from minicircuits as general gain block for a small amplifier project at 45 MHz. I'm using the circuit recommended in the data sheet but i'm getting a gain of 1dB less than stated by minicircuits.

Is it normal for this devices to miss data sheet parameters?

Tanks,

jmariano

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jmariano
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If you're only 1 dB off, that's pretty good shootin' in this business.

The ERA5 tends to have a low Zin, maybe 40 ohms or even a little less, so you can get more gain by fiddling the input match network, if you have one. The output bias network affects gain, too.

Of course, Mini-Circuits occasionally changes the vendor or the process or something, so the ERA5 specs jump around quite a bit anyhow. A lot, actually. If you call Mini-Circuits, they don't know much about the part.

John

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John Larkin

Hello Jmariano,

I agree with John, 1 dB is a small deviation (it is even within the specs).

In addition some load and/or source mismatch may change insertion gain. Did you carry out your measurements well below 1 dB gain compression point? Do you use well dimensioned capacitors and RF chokes?

Best regards,

Wim PA3DJS

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Wimpie

Hi John and Wilm,

Tank you for your help.

I can live with a 1dB off!

Being new to RF "business", as John pointed out, I was convinced that a deviation of 1dB as a sign of something wrong with my circuit. I was trying to put the blame on the era-5. But if, between impedance mismatches and gain variation, on the era-5 or due to the bias network (among others tings),

1dB is good, I'll move long to the next problem....

Wilm, all measurements are made well below 1dB compression point this time, but, of course, I did that mistake the first time :-)

Regards,

Jmariano

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jmariano

If you need exact gain, you can tune the device current and swing a few dB. That will alsi change the impedances! These mmics are just Darlington transistors and aren't very smart.

One part I really like is the SGA-3586. It's SiGe, low noise, lots of gain, and Zin can be nailed to exactly 50 ohms by tweaking the operating current. And, unlike the ERA5, it doesn't keep changing. I have some graphs somewhere...

John

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John Larkin

Well, unfortunately i'm using a already made board, so i'm stuck with the eras. Maybe next time i'll follow your suggestion. Tanks any way.

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jmariano

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