Anyone who went to university studying a natural science will know the meaning of all of these terms and the others expose their ignorance by speculating and making up instead. You clearly belong to the last category.
solid, that graph shows "freezing" occurring at 273K
Bull- it goes from 10^3 to 10^9 Pa, idiot.
on pressure, the freezing point, I believe, is not"
There is no discussion- the statement was about water "freezing", pseudo-intellectual.
More of your parroting insults from other mediocre and pretentious garbage like yourself? Like I say- you are typical USENET garbage, all mouth and heap of worthless garbage in the physical world. My, how that keyboard empowers unskilled nobodies...
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That is the pseudo-intellectuals for you, speculating about elementary definitions- and later on you find even a second order network is hopelessly beyond their abilities of computation. They are worthless zeroes of the highest order. The original weakling who started the thread with his ignorant question offered no discussion about direct responses to its question, preferring instead to pseudo-intellectualize about the fundamental principles of terminology, in a weak and ineffective way- OP=ZEROID.
John, you can't have it both ways. You say the above is what you do, but what you actually *do* is the next paragraph:
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When will that begin?
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Go on folks, this is all very bloody important.
triple point ring a bell?
Er..the gospels are the biggest pile of erroneous nonsense one can come up with. Its all about those imaginary beings, that can do anything, be everywhere at once, knows everything etc...
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Look, this isn't an argument, it's just contradiction!
No curve but some info:
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Sorry to hear that. I was surprised that I couldn't simply Google this. But the elusive neon sign transformer voltage current curve remains uncaptured.
The tripple-point of water is ~4C, so the freezing point is dependent on pressure, at least somewhat. Here is a phase diagram for water, which shows that the freezing point isn't quite vertical:
It's *ALL* out there. Not *ALL* is correct though. ;-)
Don Lancaster has written many articles for electronics magazines. Also regular columns for several electronics magazines (probably still running). One of his books (CMOS cookbook) was a standard for many years. You might be able to learn something from him too.
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Thanks, but this info is more confusing than clarifying.
The table of data at reduced voltage looks pretty linear, and if the normal operating curve is not based on any nonlinear elements, then this should extrapolate to something pretty close to the actual curve.
Table excerpted: " Regulation - Between an open and a short circuit, the core and winding construction results in a quasi-constant current characteristic over much of this range. I did a test on a 12 kV, 30 mA transformer at reduced voltage (I didn't have any way of providing a variable load at full output so I used a Variac to set the no load output voltage to 1,000 VAC): Load Output Voltage Output Current ------------------------------------------- Open 1,000 VAC 0.00 mA R 560 VAC 1.43 mA R/2 350 VAC 1.79 mA R/3 250 VAC 1.91 mA R/4 195 VAC 1.99 mA R/5 160 VAC 2.04 mA Short 0 VAC 2.10 mA"
But a few paragraphs later we read: "(From: John De Armond ( snipped-for-privacy@bellsouth.net).)
Let me answer several questions at once. First, a 15 kV, 60 mA transformer will produce 60 ma almost up to its rated voltage. The transformer is designed to be a constant current device, to supply whatever compliance voltage is needed to push the 60 ma through the load. The 60 ma is nominal short-circuit. All magnetic transformers made for use in the US are designed for continuous use at no more than 80% of the short-circuit current.
I never actually sat down and plotted it out but I do know this: With 1 foot of neon tubing on a transformer (about 500 volt drop), it drives 60 mA. With over 60 feet of tubing on the tranny (more than specified), it still outputs about 50 to 53 mA. That's fairly constant current."
But 80% of short circuit current would be 48 mA, and the current did not fall that far, even with an excessive 60 feet of tubing as a load. So the various parts of this story do not add up. The low voltage test indicates linearity, while the full voltage test indicates current regulation. The specified operating current does not match the measured current.
So I am still confused.
No, it's not! ;^j
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Hey! Let's not knock the imaginary!
Where would electronics be today without sqrt(-1)? ;-)
Oh no, I thought someone was referring to The Phantom's tutorials.
Don always makes eminent sense. I have his Active Filter Cookbook right here.
John
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