Copyright on HP service manuals

Compression used to be necessary when HDDs were under a GB, but not anymore. Compress your .JPGs, .MPGs and .WAVs, but don't try to compress something that doesn't take up much room to begin with. HDD space is a half buck per GB, fer crying out loud! Use it! Instead of compressing the data, get a bigger HDD!

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That sounds like Marketing-Speak to me. You can put it where the sun don't shine.

I read in sci.electronics.design that "Watson A.Name - \\"Watt Sun, the Dark Remover\\"" wrote (in ) about 'Copyright on HP service manuals', on Sat, 23 Apr 2005:

Most manuals contain warnings about safety issues. Denying access to those warnings could be contrary to Health and Safety laws.

I've used CDRWIN to generate my 2353 byte raw images. This is important to me because things like equipment manuals which contain text can be kept heavily compressed, so if a single little error creeps in, it can affect large portions of the text.

Stepan

Well, you can always read the raw data from the floppy and do data recovery on the image file by hand... This is where I think it's nice to have some error correction and interleave in the data being recovered. You certainly don't get that with FAT12, and especially not with compressed filesystems. Netapp has an iteresting product that is esentially a RAID5 but with two parity disks instead of just one. You have to loose two drives to loose the array.

Stepan

That's called a stub. It's an impedance mismatch causing a standing wave. The skin effect renders the thin wire resistive, so it's presence is not relevant. This is a perfectly normal phenomenon, there is nothing silly about it.

Stepan

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On the other hand, providing fee manuals encourages folks who are RESPONSIBLE FOR making corporate PURCHASING decisions, to buy nice vintage HP equipment on eBay for hobby use. This is a great way to promote NEW EXPENSIVE HP product into the corporate environment. If folks end up purchasing Keithley for hobby use just because they can download the manuals, they might come to see that some of the Keithley stuff is quite nice.

Also, each and every time a lawyer sends out a cease and desist in the name of protecting his client's interests, he can bill for his service. I'll bet that depending on the arrangement, he can often do this on his own initiative.

Stepan

Data/IO did something like many years ago with all their vintage EPROM programmers. They sold/licensed the service/support for their legacy products to another company, but they did not get out of the business.

Stepan

Unfortunately the restriction of documentation for obsolete equipment is a profit motive by Agilent as it promotes the planned obsolescence of older equipment which competes with new equipment on the market.

Joe

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Gimme a stinkin' break! It's all that crap - music and movies - that's taking up all your space. Get rid of them! Or put them on CDs or DVDs.

No. If the equipment makers have to sell newer equipment by making it difficult for used equipment, instead of adding features and performance to the newer equipment to make it sell itself, then they're just a bunch of marketers and should be in the 'selling sugar water' business, as Jobs once put it.

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I wish I could afford more space. I've got a 250GB drive in my server, and then I have two more 250GB drives that I use for rotating backups. Once a year I freeze the backup to DVD. What I need is four 250GB drives in a RAID5 in my server, but then I have to buy more drives for backup too. The price quickly becomes prohibitive, and I'm not even taking the cost of a SATA RAID5 controller (3ware?) into account.

Ouch!

"Flappity, floppity, flip The mouse on the Mobius strip; The strip revolved, The mouse dissolved In a chronodimensional skip."

If you planted grass on a mobius strip, then your mouse could never say that the grass is always greener on the other side.

Stepan

The Moebius strip was inspired after observing that politicians wander all over the place, never get anywhere, and always end up where they started! ;-)

The military is screening IP addresses, trying to match them to geographic locations, and blocking access from outside the US.

The screening isn't perfect, BTW. Sometimes real USAians cannot get to it, sometimes foreigners can...

Tim.

I read in sci.electronics.design that snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com wrote (in ) about 'Copyright on HP service manuals', on Sun, 24 Apr 2005:

The grass wouldn't grow, because it wouldn't be able to work up which way was 'up'.

On 22 Apr 2005 15:36:43 GMT, Daniel Haude put finger to keyboard and composed:

I'd go much further than that. I'd compel all vendors to provide service manuals, including circuit diagrams, for all their products, at some nominal charge in electronic format, either via the Net or on a CDROM. This would be a condition of doing business. In this way much of the equipment that is presently consigned to landfill because it is uneconomical to repair would still be in operation. This is a job for the useless tree-hugging whale-watching Greenies. It's about time they developed some testicular fortitude and pressed for some *real* legislative changes. I could care less about the environmental impact of plastic bags, or the "controlled" supply of drugs for youth, or how close I'm allowed to approach a cetacean, etc, etc, etc.

- Franc Zabkar

Well, it's easy to fill a big drive up when you use computers in place of your TV/VCR and Stereo, and when you scan everything in, digital camera which takes movie clips, the wife and two kids, a home network with 7 computers on it, and software for both windows and linux, a full set of MAME ROMS and disk images, bla bla bla.

We have 37 terrabytes worth of x-rays, CT scans etc at the hospital where I work, all online in spinning disk, so a measly 250GB at home doesn't look like a lot in comparison. A few more years and we'll all have terrabyte hard drives at home.

Stepan