Convention for naming for audio adaptors and leads

Mar 22, 2009 56 Replies

David Nebenzahl wrote in news:49c70be6$0$29970$ snipped-for-privacy@news.adtechcomputers.com:

That got me thinking a bit. In this case there's more than convention though. The land is an extension of the shore, so onshore means coming in from the sea (if it was already moving over land before reaching the coast, calling it onshore at the critical moment when it no longer was, would be pointless). That could still be open to convention, but if you're on land, what matters is where the wind comes from, once it's past you it's someone elses business. At sea it's the other way round, no matter where it comes from, it's always more important where it's going because if it's strong enough to be hazardous, where it goes, so must you, to some extent at least.

That critical aspect isn't just me digressing for fun. It explains why conventions in HV systems are far more critically observed. Once people lives are at stake, they tend to agree and accept conventions.

But for domestic hifi cabling and such, all bets are off. Never mind plug/socket, male/female. If you don't specify exactly whether you mean the two connectors on the adaptive section, or the one on each of the separate links that adaptive section is meant to bridge, then all the rest has as much basis as up and down if you're in freefall. I think most people specify that first, from what I've seen, so people instinctively know the need to be met. But that works by talking, seeing, touching even, it won't work on an online order form.

*sleeps before I turn into a little blob of literalistic goo*

Standard nomenclature in France.

S.

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So XLR plugs are all male? Technically you may be right, but that's not how the words get used. Everyone talks of XLR plugs whether they're male or female if they're attached to a cable. Ditto BNCs which have male inners and sort of female outers.

The way I name things, all hermaphrodite connectors are plugs if they go on the end of a cable, or sockets if they attach to a panel.

S.

http://audiopages.googlepages.com

There seems a lack of any info on Cinch-Jones in Wikipedia

They used to call RCA plugs phono years ago, when phonos were the rage. Since phonos started out mono, it only had 1 conductor.

I just worked on a Apple power cord. it looks like a 3 conductor RCA somewhat.

greg

No, if you look at the signal mating faces of the BNC, you will find that a male is male for both inner and outer. It is only the locking ring that is different. And I think I have always called XLRs connectors, rather than plugs and sockets. I am in no doubt about which is the male though - it has the pins which push into the sockets of the female.

Try the APC7

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The mating faces are both flat - entirely unsexed. They are always called simply connectors. The locking ring is also present on all of them - simply advance and engage whichever of the two takes your fancy.

They are usually not the scratched and scraped mess of this one - very poor care.

d

On 3/23/2009 5:44 AM Don Pearce spake thus:

I thought the company was Cinch-Jones, or some such. Is that an old name?

Made From Pears: Pretty good chance that the product is at least mostly pears. Made With Pears: Pretty good chance that pears will be detectable in the product. Contains Pears: One pear seed per multiple tons of product. (with apologies to Dorothy L. Sayers)

Audio, too, like the Switchcraft 2501 series.

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I do. In fact, if I ever get that dam digital coupon, I plan to ask if any of the boxes have audio and video out, since I have audio and video in RCA jacks on my TeeVee.

Cheers! Rich

The local TeeVee weather shows call it "onshore" when it's coming from the ocean, going onto the shore on its way. "Offshore" is the ones that start on land and blow their way off the shore (onto the ocean).

Cheers! Rich

That only applies to "northerly", etc. Onshore really means onto the shore.

Hope This Helps! Rich

Don't have any usage statistics handy but I know that when I read "phono" I have to stop and think what it might be. Creative spelling for "phone jack" ? The actual device ? Something else ? Oh, you meant an "RCA" or "Cinch" ? Why not write that, then ?

André Majorel "This would only solve part of the problem therefore the status quo must be maintained."

Other than the fact that RCA developed the connectors for its add on

45 RPM record changers? They sold radios with the mating connector, and added a switch to the existing radio designs so people could buy the changer, only if they needed it. Cinch had nothing to do with the original connector design.

Why should we pander to those with feeble minds?

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Exactly, which is why a socket can be either a "cord mount" or a "panel mount".

MrT.

Which is why you should use the term TS or TRS (tip, ring, sleeve) rather than stereo or mono. A mono balanced line also uses a TRS plug for example.

MrT.

Phono is shorthand for RCA? :-) Frankly since RCA are the common cheap video connections these days, and turntables are now fairly rare, I prefer not to use the term "phono" any more.

MrT.

No, when describing connectors as male or female, it is the conductor pins that define it. The pins of a male XLR "insert" into the sockets of a female, regardless of whether they are cord or panel mount. Trying to insert a socket "into" a pin would require more than a big hammer :-)

MrT.

I'd say so. I've used XLR sockets too.

I don;t and anyone that does I'd correct.

for me it's Male plugs, female sockets.

But of course in a PC world I'd call a male that has had a sex change a female, but if I found a 3 pins mains plug without the pins I'd call it useless and throw it in the recycle box :)

Indeed. Alas, there isn't a similar acronym for 4-pole. TRRS anyone?

It's usual just to talk about the pin size (eg 3.5mm) and the number of connectors. So a 4 pole, 3.5 mm plug is common on video camera's for example. Not a major problem that I can see. You do need to be a bit more careful when describing the pin connections though I guess. TRRS certainly wouldn't help there!

MrT.

In the power/low frequency signal world, the sex of the connector is determined by the outer shell. Female shells are sockets or jacks (ever wonder why a female shell is a jack and not a jill?). Male shells are plugs.

In the RF world, the sex of the connector is determined by the center pin.

Jim

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