It doesn't happen very often. Laurence Bragg was an undergraduate when he and his father invented X-ray diffraction (and got a Nobel Prize for it) and Christopher Longuett-Higgins was an undergraduate when he invented the explanation for bonding in B2H6
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He didn't get the Nobel Prize that was awarded in that area.
I can't think of any other examples (but I did meet both Laurence Bragg and Christopher Longuett-Higgins, so they have stuck in my memory).
Scientist don't approve or disapprove - they merely observe. You are merely guessing.
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Bill Sloman
At the "pigs might fly" level.
John Larkin has so few new ideas that he's very friendly to his own. For the rest it's all not invented here.
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Bill Sloman
And if you have very few new ideas, you do tend to over-value the few that you do come up with.
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Nobody ever seems to have "agreed that it was impossible". The slightly bizarre compounds where it happens mean that it happens inside single molecules - albeit fairly large ones.
Having it happen along an axon is an extravagant stretch.
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Bill Sloman
But you do have a creationist approach to evolution. "Creation science" is what is sold to ignorant suckers, and you've bought it.
We do know a bit about that. Why don't you try to find out.
Sadly. you are a bible banger, though you don't know enough to realise it.
That's not what he is doing. Nobody has yet found evidence that would make it necessary to postulate that the brain (as opposed to the eye) uses quantum entanglement.
Evolution uses what has worked before. It doesn't make giant leaps.
Every evolutionary development has to work pretty much as well as the previous version.
Not in evolution as you understand it, because you don't understand evolution as well as you should.
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Bill Sloman
If evolution is that clever, why doesn't it exploit error-detecton and
-correction coding?
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Bill Sloman
Jan Panteltje thinks that the Le Sage theory of gravity is a tenable theory.
We do understand a good bit more than ants do, and lots of us understand a good deal more than Jan Panteltje does.
He means "comic".
But Jan has been wired in incorrectly.
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Jeroen Belleman
You're suggesting that the ideas are most importatnt and come first. I'm saying that ideas come about because of the unexpected result of some experiment. Ideas don't come out of the blue. You have to have some familiarity with the matter to which the idea applies.
I would never dismiss your ideas about electronics out of hand, but when you ramble about quantum consciousness, then I do.
As for quantum biology, biology is complicated chemistry and chemistry is a complicated consequence of quantum mechanics. It's just a different level of abstraction. I don't suppose you use quantum theory to design an opamp circuit, do you?
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Jeroen Belleman
Believing things without evidence is what I meant by 'religious beliefs'. I did not intend to refer to any deity.
Precicely my point. We seem to agree after all.
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Bill Sloman
You have clearly yet to learn anything about error-detection and
-correction codes, which work at a much finer grain than the rotations of the DNA double helix.
You are channeling John Larkin, which makes you the broken record here.
I'm not going to bother to try to perform in a way that would gratify you or John Larkin - when I go to that sort of trouble I aim at more discriminating audiences.
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Bill Sloman
He has so few that he makes a fuss about the ones he does have.
In designing novel circuits, idea are frequently generated by having to come up with unexpected solutions to unfamiliar problems. Some people are better at it than others.
Phil Hobbs has to work around quite a lot of Johnson noise, which is the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle in action. John Larkin performs at a less demanding level.
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Jeroen Belleman
An organism with extensive DNA repair ability is Deinococcus Radiodurans, so evolution is apparently clever enough.
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Bill Sloman
The fact that it survives high radiation levels isn't evidence that it uses an error-detection and -correction coding scheme.
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doesn't make any such claim.
Covid-19 has a "proof-reading stage" in it's RNA replication mechanism, which makes it less likely to make replication errors, but it isn't any kind of error-detection and correction coding scheme.
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john larkin
Not my problem! I have to keep a notepad by my bed to write down all the ideas I have at night. Some nights I fill a page, and then there's the shower.
I invented a new product line, small PoE powered instruments, and keep coming up with box ideas. I started a new design center to develop them. It's been fun so far.
I might post the introduction here and get opinions, and maybe suggestions for new boxes.
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john larkin
I'm recursively suggesting that ideas about the origin of ideas should not be rigid either. Neither you nor I know where ideas come from.
Lee DeForest arguably invented electronics and didn't understand electrons. I read that Edison didn't understand Ohm's Law but he electrified the USA. The Wright brothers had no education in fluid dynamics; they learned from flying kites.
It's a common pattern: fiddlers invent things and then the scientists move in and improve them, and often try to take credit, with the klystron being an example. The reflex klystron was a major contributor to the Allies winning WWII, so changed the world.
I wouldn't want you in a brainstorming session. Some people are poisonous to brainstorming, want to murder ideas at birth.
I've had summer interns say something aguably goofy that triggered a discussion that led to something valuable. The attitude of the group is critical to applying positive gain to idea propagation.
Quantum biology is a hot topic lately. I've "rambling" about it for decades. Evolution make quantum consciousness imperative.
Well, I do care about shot noise, and semicondutor effects do involve QM. We are involved in hydrogen fusion. No, most opamp circuits are pretty simple.
I used to use a lot of tunnel diodes, but they are hard to get now. About the only quantum tunneling diodes for sale now are back diodes, used as RF detectors. People keep talking about tunnel transistors but there are none at Digikey so far.
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john larkin
What's amazing about Johnson noise is that some resistors don't have it.
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john larkin
We would die of cancer before we were born if we didn't have error correction in cell division.
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john larkin
Lots of people refuse to consider multiple possibilities when any of them even hint of drifting towards anything that Christians might agree about. That's a real effect, a movable blind spot.
Imagining things without evidence is the first step towards gathering evidence. I tell my engineers, have crazy ideas and stay goofy and stay confused for a while, and see what happens.
I don't encourage them to violate conservation of energy, but that's about the only hard guideline.
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john larkin
I check up now and then on FLUX.AI, just for fun.
A while back they were looking to hire a bunch of full-stack software types and one hardware intern.
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Cursitor Doom
Bill prefers to insult others in a condescending manner. It's easier.
At least that would solve the population explosion. What are we at now? 9 billion? And they've all decided to join us in N. America and Europe for some reason.
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