A Complex Metaphysical Conundrum...

Jun 18, 2006 19 Replies

Hi all, I once believed that UHF(and beyond) RF electronics was the most technically challenging hobby there is. Period. However, I've since read about some chap who claims his principal 'hobby' is Quantum Mechanics! This fellow is in prison somewhere in the UK and all his 'work' is *entirely* theoretical (obviously - given the confined circumstances) and consists of the academic pursuit of the subject alone including heaps of serious number-crunching and formidably cryptic calculus. The complex, metaphysical conundrum that arises from this is: can QM (highly theoretical even if you actually work hands-on with particle accelerators) ever be accurately described as a 'hobby?' What does the Panel think? p.



I guess a guy in his circumstances... could consider that a hobby.

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Andy writes:

I think that talking incessantly about a subject that one can't prove by demonstration shows an inferiority complex. The dude is afraid to argue a subject whose results can be proven....

Just like arguing Catholicism versus Buddha --- an interesting way , for some, to waste their time. But no way to be proven wrong.......

If the fellow's mind was as good as the fellow seems to think it is , himself, he wouldn't be afraid to approach subjects where he could be shown in error.....

I bet the SOB has never changed the oil in his own truck.....I bet if he tried, he would mess it up.....

Andy in Eureka, Texas

Quantum mechanics is a science - you don't *prove* anything. You make theories to explain data obtained by experiment, and verify the predictions of these theories with more experiments. Anyone looking for a subject whose results can be proven should stick to maths (another good choice for people stuck in prison!). But as a science, QM is solid (if somewhat difficult) - just because the guy in prison can't personally verify any predictions he comes up with, doesn't mean they can't be verified by others. After all, much of the theory is developed by people at universities, not just the more "practical" scientists working with particle accelerators and the like.

Given that you apparently know nothing about quantum mechanics, what subjects were you thinking of?

So what? Is that some sort of red-neck test of manhood?

=================================== Paul , Is there not a more appropriate NG for this topic ?

Frank GM0CSZ / KN6WH

If you define a hobby as some pursuit you do in your spare time then I guess the answer has to be yes.

Ian

One on the topic sure it is a hooy

to Hihgland Ham

yes I am sure this but it is better than the swill posting though at least one the gruops it gt droped in

David wrote:>

***** I was thinking of ways of improving the flakiness of biscuits. Also a more efficient way of skinning rabbits....
****** Yes. If you can't do the basic essentials of life, you shouldn't be screwing around with theory of the universe.........

Andy in Eureka, Texas

( If the home ed teacher in your local high school wears a pink hooter hoister, you might live in Eureka, Texas )

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No, the red-neck test of manhood is to fish the oil drain plug out of the bucket of hot oil, bare-handed. It doesn't count unless the oil is elbow deep and from a hot engine. ;-)

Rich Webb Norfolk, VA

It is a hobby if you're a physics Ph.D. who can't get an academic job :)

There are people who do astronomical computing (calculation of orbits, etc.) as a hobby. I suppose this is similar.

One on the topic sure it is a hooy

to Hihgland Ham

yes I am sure this but it is better than the swill posting though at least one the gruops it gt droped in

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Speak English, you ill-educated retard.

Well, I know that some people persue mathematics as a "hobby". Nothing could be less hands-on, but it's a hobby nonetheless.

Tim

Deep Fryer: a very philosophical monk. Website: http://webpages.charter.net/dawill/tmoranwms
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No, the red-neck test of manhood is to fish the oil drain plug out of the bucket of hot oil, bare-handed. It doesn't count unless the oil is elbow deep and from a hot engine. ;-)

Rich Webb Norfolk, VA an then you rub the oil in your hair to keep it shiny

And just how often do you need to change the universe's oil, anyway? ;-)

Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I\'ve got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida

Andy comments: Yes.... but a true redneck doesn't use a bucket..... (grin)

Andy in Eureka, Texas

( If you've ever bet your buddy that you could shoot a beer can off his head, you might live in Eureka, Texas )

Errmm! Some scientists claims the Universe is slowing down - The Oil Maintenance is obviously overdue as the friction is to high!

Dan / M0DFI

The universe isn't slowing down, its just that these young scientists have no patience! ;-)

Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I\'ve got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida

how was wether or not quantum mechcanics is hobby a "A Complex Metaphysical Conundrum..."

When all else fails, read the instructions:

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Good Luck! Rich

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