A collection of monographs on high accuracy electronics

Jun 08, 2024 Last reply: 2 years ago 28 Replies

I've never seen it stated like that. It doesn't strike me as very useful to state it like that.

It's very kind of you and of Chris too have made this text available for all, thank you. However, there is some work to be done to finish it. For example, in 3-5 5 "Noise matching transformers", it is stated that the noise resistance goes down with the root of N, the number of parallel transistors. That is not correct: It goes down with N.

It is true that the noise voltage drops with sqrt(N), but the noise _current_ rises with sqrt(N). So Rn = Vn*sqrt(1/N)/(In*sqrt(N)) = Vn/(N*In).

I also have an issue with the use of passive matching transformers for platinum resistance thermometers. This will obviously not work near DC.

Jeroen Belleman

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If as stated "the thermal noise power dissipated in an unloaded resistor" is nonzero, a reel of 0805s is a fire hazard. What would noise power mean if it can't be extracted or dissipated or even measured?

I'm now designing a signal generator that would be more sellable if it had lower voltage noise density. Given that I've got the noise as low as I can without cryogenics, around 8 nV/rtHz, the only thing left is to average multiple channels. Noise declines as the square root of applied dollars.

If there are enough people willing to read Chris’s doc carefully, maybe we could put together an errata list so that John M. could issue a corrected version.

That would probably make it more useful, and so a better memorial.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

No taxation without representation No chilli without beans No fluctuation without dissipation

Which one is true?

No motion without perpetual, apparently. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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No trolls without Australia. Actually, I thought your idea of correcting the document had much merit, Phil. You and the other big shots here can get down to the task. I'll make the tea and correct the spelling. :-)

If anybody's interested, sure.

Of course John M has obviously never been to Texas, if he thinks that all chili has beans. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

You're lucky it's not one of my drafts, in which case there would be typos on every line!

You're not seeing the wood for the trees.

Daykin's industrial experience was gained at ASL whose primary products were thermometry bridges. They had a resolution of about a mK. To achieve this the resistance thermometers are part of an ac bridge (the other leg being a ratio transformer) followed by a synchronous detector.

These monographs all basically discuss the electronics used in these bridges.

An AC bridge. That wasn't mentioned in that section, but yes, that would work. That's another suggestion for improving the text then.

Jeroen Belleman

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