smallest wired keyboard?

Of course it does, no-one ever doubted that. The real question is, for a given external torque which kind of jack does the most and which the least damage. And for that the argument against 3.5mm was reversed.

What utterly, patent bullshit.

They are clearly a technology company...

...and a very successful one.

Straw man, as he didn't make any such claim.

AND it's less functional in that it is more difficult to make water resistant.

Because a Tesla is a CAR and a magnetic tape is a piece of computer hardware?

Apple computers still have perfectly usable USB-C ports.

LIE #1: Apple spends more on R&D than all but a few companies.

Re: Re: smallest wired keyboard? By: nospam to snipped-for-privacy@ntlworld.com on Sun Apr 17 2022 06:53 am

The sort of wallet gardening seen in Apple devices clearly proves they have an idea of how their products are to be used, and they clearly want to bill you if you want to step off the safe area.

For example, you can only use Apps aproved by Apple out of the box. If I want to use a program I wrote, I am expected to buy an subscription as an App developer and load my program into the phone using their channels, which is utterly bonkers.

There are programs known to work on iOS which don't have an official version because the developers won't go through the hassle and expense required.

And yet the entire personal computer industry has eliminated them from pretty much every computer sold for personal computer use.

it wasn't reversed.

the lightning connector is designed to snap when torqued to prevent damage to the device. removing the remaining plug and replacing the now broken cable is easy and inexpensive.

that is *not* the case for a 3.5mm plug, where the chances for significant damage to the device when torqued is *much* higher.

Again you're dead wrong, nospam. As usual. You don't even _look_ at the OP before you spew your complete bullshit.

It's how I surmise you have a low IQ nospam. You're almost always wrong as a result.

The rapi people (whom the OP, Eli the Bearded included) don't know that the 'nospam' character will defend everything Apple does to the death.

No matter what.

They also don't know yet that "Alan" (aka Alan Baker) is a Snit-like character who is universally plonked by everyone since he cannot carry on an adult conversation.

This "Alan" buys arguments by the dozen, but what's worse is he _never_ clicks on any of the references before outright refuting anything that doesn't make Apple shine like the back end of a greased monkey.

In the end, the rapi people will realize who the iKooks are on their own, as all the iKooks exhibit three singlular traits that are consistent throughout

1. The iKooks have a low IQ (Alan's is about 40, nospam's is only 2X that)
2. None of the iKooks owns _any_ education to speak of (they're ignorant)
3. But what's their defining trait is their self esteem is in the gutter (understandably so) but that they bolster their low self esteem by their supposed superiority in choosing Apple products and in agreeing without question (much like Russians seem to do) with whatever propaganda the Apple mothership (who supplies them their self esteem) feeds them.

Notice the iKooks don't have an equivalent on the Linux or Windows or Android newsgroups because the low self esteem component is missing.

Apple marketing is _brilliant_ at feeding low self esteem people like these iKooks are, but what makes them iKooks are the confluence of the 3 traits.

Apple have very much an attitude of you will only use our product the way we say you will use it. example they refused a camera app for the ip into the store because the user had repurposed one of the SOFT keys as a shutter button. Apples reasoning - whilst documented as a soft button our apps use that for a specific function & it is what users expect. I MIGHT have accepted this except for the fact that in the next upgrade they decided to change the operation of that button themselves!

why do you keep Posting under 2 identities? It is quite clear who you actually are

that is false.

that's not quite correct. users have nothing to do with it.

one *developer* added the ability to take a photo with the volume button in their app, which was rejected because apple didn't want people to mistakenly take photos when adjusting the volume.

apple later reversed that decision.

this may come to you as a surprise, but the app review process is not perfect.

that was also more than a decade ago.

it's not as clear as you think since i only post under one identity.

'arlen' is the one who switches nyms more often than the wind changes.

strange, i mentioned no names but you seem to think you know who i mean Guilty conscience?

Yeah I'm fully aware that there are situations that parallel ports make more sense, and latency is a big one. Same with Serial ports as there's no bring-up or negotiation process required along the port (and if you can drive the serial port faster than the parallel port, then it could potentially have higher throughput.) But not for most consumer usecases.

Likewise there are cases where the TRS 3.5mm connector is IMO a better choice than a USB or Bluetooth based connector. I've used TRS 3.5mm connectors as a way to directly connect low-voltage low-frequency digital lines together. For this usecase it offers the functionality of a serial port with a fraction of the bulk (at the cost of a worse connection/lower usable max switching speed than a serial port.) My trackball lets the user add additional buttons by plugging them into the trackball through a 3.5mm TRS connector and this is one of the few good uses. The trackball doesn't have enough space for a true serial connector and just detecting on-and-off from human input isn't frequency sensitive enough that connection capacitance would affect the reading significantly. As long as the trackball has some built-in debouncing, it's a convenient small interface to work with.

Unfortunately there are very few other cases where I would find myself trying to use a TRS 3.5mm connector. If I want to make a low-latency direct connection I would use a serial or parallel port which has none of the connection issues of TRS and can offer much lower latency and higher throughput (thanks to lower capacitance around the connector.) If I'm looking for a convenient connector to transmit audio, I'd stick to a USB based standard. If I'm looking to transmit analog audio signals I'd use (mini-)XLR. The largest usecase in my mind for a TRS

Which brings me back to my original point, as a consumer connector TRS sockets are just bad. Even as an industrial connector TRS sockets are kinda bad. In certain specialized situations TRS sockets make sense but as a consumer connector I'm glad they're mostly done and over.

So you mean like literally thousands of other companies?

Cite please!

Do you ask the same of Arlen/Andy Burnelli/Nil?

Perhaps because you asked the question in a reply to his post...

you must be new. 'arlen' and his antics is well known, across *many* newsgroups.

if you think he and i are the same person then you're *very* confused.