DIY led guide

Black text on dark grey background... maybe they need to light it up with some of their leds. Ron(UK)

Hmm, I get grey background and white text, for what it's worth since they appear to be "Bunny hunting" :-)

Cheers ......... Rheilly P

Where theres a will, I want to be in it.

Misleading info designed to sell their product.

Which bit Dave ?

Arfa

What I don't appreciate is the practice of spamming the newsgroups in order to advertise a web site.

Of course the info is designed to sell their product. It's called advertising. How better to make their products and presence known than on a web site.

Please tell... what is misleading about the information on the web site? Have you bought any of their products and found them to be inferior or otherwise not as avertised? If not, then I submit that you are a spammer as well.

Cheers!!!!

I take it that was Dave P you were replying to - not me ... !!! d;~}

Arfa

I take it that's directed at me?

Well, it will have to be from memory since the site's not now available here.

It doesn't give general advice on LEDs but simply the ones they sell. Then things like LEDs can't be used on AC, and that those with built in resistors are better value than plain ones.

Err, the subject was DIY LED guide. That could be a useful facility for many if genuine and comprehensive. But it's simply an ad.

Oh yes? How many spammers reply to newsgroup posts? And how many include a genuine e-mail address? ;-)

Your statement that the information on the site was misleading and designed to sell their product was what I was bringing into question. I was curious as to your motive for making the statement.

I looked at the web site in question, and there does seem to be a decent discussion of LED applications, mounting techniques, etc. Granted, the site would appeal more to the novice, but the info presented there is pretty general, not applying just to their products (although it is slanted towards use of their products). Their mention of the use of LEDs on AC specifically states that they can't be hooked directly across wall power, and is absolutely correct. Unless you use some sort of circuitry to limit voltage and current, damage will ensue.

And that's all I have to say about that. (Forrest Gump)

general,

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The OP seems to imply that one would get a general discussion of LED's for the beginner. The actual site gives little information about LED's. It's simply a catalog with applications. It doesn't give any information on how to use LED's that do not come out of their warehouse, or general info on how LED's work...the implication of the OP.

That would be spam.

jak

This sort of thing can be bad in a group, or good. I don't necessarily reject all advertising as bad, but it's a case of where you draw the line, and I guess that officially, it has to be at zero tolerance, although that is to some extent academic in a group that has not been set up to be moderated, so has no intrisic mechanism to kill such posts.

I don't really like it when companies 'spam' a group with their adverts, particularly when they are doing it spread-shot to many groups where their products have no relevance. On the other hand, occasionally, a component supplier or info supplier or whatever, whose products or services might be useful to group members, does pop up on here. If that supplier or manufacturer has a genuine desire to help the electronics business - and not all are rogues and charlatans just out to make a fast buck off of internet fools - then should we condemn that supplier for trying ? Also, I don't have a problem when a genuine non-commercial person, posts a link to the website of a supplier or manufacturer that they've found useful or helpful, or whose products or services they feel would be useful to the group in general. It's a fine line to be sure ...

Arfa

My attitude is that its ok to reply to someone's request for a part or service, but not to post blatant ads. If someone requests a source for, say, a transistor or IC they need, there should be no problem for someone to post a message stating, "Yes, we have XX in stock, and the price is $x.xx each, plus shipping (And stating which country's currency the price is in)" or something in that vein. That is participating in the newsgroup, but the ones that loudly proclaim, "We have every part ever made and you will never be able to deal with anyone else" are just low life spammers.

Given the OP hasn't joined in it's safe to assume it's just spam. ;-) An honest post from the company involved doesn't seem so bad, somehow.

However, the best way to do it is for a tech from the company to answer a few questions on LEDs, etc, and include a link to the site. But that requires effort...

Yes, I think that sums it up quite well.

Arfa

Yes it does, with the caveat that the subject line be scrupulously honest. In this case, the post promised 'information' when in fact, the site was specifically designed to 'sell', not inform.

jak

Oh no! Now I've done it! I have Arfa agreeing with me! ;-)