I have a theory that my sinuses might have something to do with it. My sinus cavities on the front of my face are fairly small, but I know that I have more sinus cavities farther along the roof of my head. I also suffer from TMJ, and the pain in one jaw joint is bad enough that I often can't sleep on that side. So, maybe the internal structure of my skull explains how I hear this sound, and my sinus and jaw problems.
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marc
You won't need your hearing to do this test all you need to do is turn on the tv and have the proper measurement equipment and a pair of eyes to see the results on your equipment. So there's no hurry.
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pooua
I have never met a functioning CRT that I could not easily hear.
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8 kHz is the max for headphone tests of the eardrum.
12 kHz is the max for nerve conduction (through the skull).
drill
No
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There is a limit to what anyone could reject. As I say, the sound is similar to the sound of a dentist drill or a jet engine, not just in pitch, but in volume. This is not a subtle effect.
stimuli.
If I watch TV, I often tune out the sound of the TV. Then, again, the sound is louder when there no picture displayed. In fact, I can hear shifts in pitch and volume as a television changes the image it displays, or if it has trouble locking onto an image.
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Eric K. Weber
Pal M is 15.750 KHZ
Have a look at
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for the other international versions of television for horizontal frequency.
Rgds: Eric
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Arny Krueger
Yes and no. If the intensity is high enough, it may be possible to discern pure tones above 20 KHz. OTOH, hearing the removal of sounds is a different question, and the borderline frequency for most people is around 16 KHz.
There are a probably an infinite number of ways that any assumption could be wrong, but that sheds little light on whether the assumption is correct or not.
Sure there is. The perception of pitch is based on the activation of hairs in a coil-shaped structure in the ear. The finest hairs relate to high frequencies, but they don't go on forever. Basically, you run out of structure at some point in this part of the ear, and the extent and health of this structure sets the highest frequencies that you can perceive. It's not uncommon for this structure to be damaged by listening to excessively loud sounds.
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Joe Sensor
Shut up and play guitar. :)
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George Gleason
I can easily hear it and my hearing does not go near 16K
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George Gleason
Most people can hear it, at least until they are 25 or so but most people do not know how to focus their listening and blank it out kind of like what my son does when I ask him if he did his homework
There is nothing special about hearing this my hearing is down 30 dB at 8 K(as high as the test at AES went) when compared to 3K and I can easily hear it george
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no_one
the sound is caused by the magnetostriction of the power transfomer
16khz is not in the middle of the human range; voice is and it is around 3 khz
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Chaos Master
Do you know what are those frequencies for PAL-M?
Sometimes I notice this high-pitched sound coming from my TV... (the 2 TV's I have at home: a 14" Toshiba and a 20" LG, so it's not a fault on the TV)
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George Gleason
I have no idea they gave us headphones and had us press a button when we heard sound this was end oct 04 but I also feel(subjectivly ) that I can hear things the tests say I should not be able to Because I can focus my listening and isolate sounds , like a single flute out of a flute section from 150 feet away from the orchestra george
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George Gleason
It could easily be measured with Macfoh
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and DPA measurement mics george
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George Gleason
8k was as high as the test measured so I am not aware of my measured abilities above that George
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William Sommerwerck
Women, and especially black women, are able to hear at higher frequencies than men.
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Pooh Bear
When they're badly designed / manufactured - yes.
Until recent times mostly around 15 kHz.
Nope.
No human can hear those frequencies - well proven - forget it.
Well - I had a proper hearing test when I was in my mid 20s and the nurse commented that I had the most perfect hearing she'd ever measured.
I was on the 0dB line all the way to 8 kHz - the highest frequency used for medical testing it seems.
You have good hearing acuity.
May not necessarily be a result of perfect hearing but a desire to use your ears as a useful tool.
You mean you have diffiiculty with large background levels of noise ? Can't 'reject' it ?
Me too. You have high hearing acuity. Your ears are 'wide open' to stimuli. May ppl simply 'filter out' what they're uninterested in.
Graham
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Pooh Bear
Using a test generator I was able to *sense* rather than hear 22kHz when I was in my early 20s.
Now I'm 50 - I seem to top out on 'hearing' at about 16kHz. That makes me quite lucky it seems.
I do believe you can 'educate' your hearing btw. Be interested to hear - lol - other ppl's comments.
Graham
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Pooh Bear
Interesting.
Maybe you're hearing some magnetorestriction related noise in the LOPT ?
Maybe you underestimate your hearing ?
Graham
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Pooh Bear
George !
Are you thinking of taking up a new role as a comedian ?
I loved that response. :-)
Graham
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Pooh Bear
I suspect that the brain compensates actually.
I reckon also that the simple desire to use your ears effectively influences your result significantly.
E.g. George Martin was a famed record producer but was essentially deaf in one ear !
Graham
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Arny Krueger
Agreed.
It's a matter of intensity.
Normal.
I think that magnetostriction and related vibration in either the transformers or the deflection yoke is the usual explanation.
The mistake appears to be thinking that the limit of HF hearing is one number that does not vary with the details and nature of the test.
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