sorta ot a/c around the world

Jul 02, 2026 Last reply: 1 day ago 31 Replies

Europe is in the process of fixing the problem. They will not be going with the individualized cooling plant, which is energy inefficient and only makes matters worse. District cooling is the answer for them.

More ‘deadly’ heat is on the way: Can Europe’s waterways cool us down and replace air con?

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"Europe’s warming climate – which is conclusively caused by the persistent burning of fossil fuels..." is typical nonsense.

District cooling is OK for big cities, if you don't mind digging up the streets for water pipes. And building giant cooling plants. I'd expect the bottom-line cost to be much more than domestic a/c.

I guess throwaway people who live in remote places like farm houses can just suffer the heat.

I'm sure the big politicians have a/c already.

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

John Larkin didn't pay much attention to his science classes at Tulane, and he's a gullible sucker for climate change change denial propaganda.

Much of Europe already has the water pipes for district heating. Typically they were connected to a local power generating plant to exploit the waste heat. The power generation has largely been taken over by wind farms, solar farms, and big fast-start gas turbines, so the local power generation site is available to accommodate the local cooling plant.

They can have regular air-conditioners, just like everybody else, but dairy farms need on-site refrigeration anyway.

It's a bit hard to fit it into heritage architecture. It can be done, but it does cost money.

Cooling (in this case, refrigeration) is sort of like sex; if you've NEVER had it, you likely don't miss it. But, once you've HAD it, you can't live without it!

I grew up with fans and open windows -- and sweaty shirts! But, once I had a cooled space to occupy, THAT became paramount!

[We're in our s***ty season -- Monsoon -- where humidity climbs (though temperatures moderate -- 86F and 46% at 1:40AM)]

New Orleans was worse in summer. Temp and humidity both in the 90s and the mosquitoes as big as chickens.

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

The skeeters in the North Woods are bigger--your only chance of escaping is if two of them fight over you.

Cheers

Phil "Just back from Quebec" Hobbs

I still remember as a 4 or 5 year old (1965ish) asking my Dad why that plane kept flying back and forth over the whole New Orleans metropolitan area, and he explained to me that the city owned a DC-3 and it was spraying to kill mosquitoes. A few times a tank truck drove down our street in Metarie, spraying out a sweet-smelling fog and I remember my parents grabbing us kids and dragging us inside and closing all the windows. Ahh, the good old days :-).

I lived in Metarie once, on Shrewsbury Court. It was sort of dull.

Have you heard of TANO corporation?

I do recall trucks driving down the street spraying giant clouds of insecticide. Better than getting malaria and yellow fever.

Turns out that skeeters have a favorite blood type, O, which is mine.

Never heard of TANO. Dad worked at several of the shipyards there, Lykes Steamship, Boland, and an engineering firm, Bright Engineering, plus a couple more I don't remember as a draftsman and engineer from maybe 1955ish to 1968 when we moved around a bit then landed in Pascagoula at Ingalls Shipbuilding/Litton Industries. Reading your stories about engine controls and such I always wondered if your paths ever crossed, just as proof of how small the world can be sometimes. I'm O+ and was always the first to start slapping mosquitoes near sunset until somewhere in my 30's I magically became unattractive to them. If I could bottle it I'd be rich, but I can't explain it :-). We lived on Orion, next to Bonnabel halfway between Veterans Hwy and Esplanade. Standard subdivision grid with lots of families and kids.

We had the sprayers in the north-east as well. DDT. The real stuff.

I'm not Type O, but still get too much attention.

Joe

I designed some shipboard control systems for Avondale, the LASH ships, and for the LHA ships built in Pascagoula.

TANO was on West Esplanade. I was employee #5, and they had over 200 when they fired me.

So I explored America and picked San Francisco.

There is NO ragweed in San Francisco. And rarely a mosquito.

Lots of hawks, crows, jays, owls, wild parrots, and coyotes.

John Larkin Highland Tech Glen Canyon Design Center Lunatic Fringe Electronics

Avondale is the other place Dad worked that I couldn't remember. My family keeps twisting my arms to move back down to Pascagoula but I just can't commit to the weather. Maryland is nice, you get all 4 seasons, each just "enough" so you know what it is but none of them hateful. July and Aug it's 5-10 F cooler and at least 10% lower relative humidity here than down there on the Coast.

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