simple 150uA constant current supply

Mar 30, 2008 81 Replies

You could push this thing to the edge, and just use one resistor:-)

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I am *convinced* it will work...LOL

"Dave the D*****ad "

** Look up " fet current source ".

One JFET plus one resistor.

D*****ad.

..... Phil

Look up "typical Idss variation for production jfets."

Amateur.

John

"John Larkin" "Phil Allison"

** Already very familiar with that - you posturing asshole.

The OP merely needs to chose his FET and resistor ( or trim pot) to get

150uA.

** Autistic prick.

..... Phil

"Jamie the Lying F****it Asshole "

** Drop dead - pisshead.

.... Phil

Phil's been eating too much of the yellow snow. Maybe he'll next lick the frozen flag pole ;-)

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There are microscopic nanopower opamps from Linear and others. Since all you want is nominal +/-20% , and this is the same as Vbatt ranging from

2-3V, then something simple that does not require much battery current would be like so, total bias around 16ua, compliance should be to within a few hundred millivolts of the rail, and you could do even better with a PFET: View in a fixed-width font such as Courier.

. . . . BATT---+-----------+-----------. . | | | . | | | . [3.9k] | [390] . | | | . | .----|-----------+ . | | | | . | | |\\ | | . | '-|-\\| |< . | | >---------| 2N3904 . +--------|+/| |\\ . | |/ | | . | | | . | | Iout . | | . [166k] | . | | . | | . COM---+-----------+------- . . .

You need to advise someone towards a design that is likely to need a trim pot?

- Don Klipstein ( snipped-for-privacy@misty.com)

Hand selection, trimpots? As I said, amateur.

John

That circuit will usually oscillate, sometimes at two different frequencies simultaneously.

John

Now now children! :)

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"Don Klipstein"

** Why the heck not?

The half witted OP is making a one-off - he ain't no designer.

Very wrong of YOU and other "experts " here always * assume * mass production is envisaged.

..... Phil

Phil, please stop licking the bus windows and go play with the barn yarn animals.

http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5"

Okay, very cool- so he needs to rectify and smooth the output , do you have a problem with that? Seriously, the GBW is like 25KHz...

If the opamp is very slow, as most micropower amps are, the main loop will be stable. But the 3904 may, usually does, oscillate at a couple hundred MHz on its own. A bit of resistance in series with the base,

33 ohms or so, will fix that. Strangely, the Zout of most opamps is not enough to kill the Q of the base circuit.

John

What is it with you people and your oscillating transistors? You do realize the emitter follower load is a 390R resistor? Have it your way: View in a fixed-width font such as Courier.

. . . . BATT---+-----------+-----------. . | | | . | | | . [3.9k] | [390] . | | | . | .----|-----------+ . | | | | . | | |\\ | | . | '-|-\\| |< . | | >---[33]--| 2N3906 . +--------|+/| |\\ . | |/ | | . | | | . | | Iout . | | . [166k] | . | | . | | . COM---+-----------+------- . . .

Yeah, Jamie's getting lonely waiting for you.

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Here's that same idea using a MOSFET. Don't know how stable with temperature, or how it will vary with production lots.

Paul

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A simple asymmetric current mirror built with a dual PNP transistor - as drawn below - or an NPN part would have much the same accuracy (depending on the Vbe matching between the two transistors in the dual) would probably be cheaper and would use fewer parts, and is unlikely to oscillate.

Farnell stock four NPN and five PNP duals from NXP (was Philips) as well as five current mirrors - three NPN and two PNP three of them from NXP and and two from Infineon (was Siemens). You'd need to look at the data sheets to work out which would suit you best

View in a fixed-width font such as Courier.

BATT---------------+-----------. . | | . | | . [3K9] | . | | . | | . / / . |< |< . | | . +---------+-----------| . | |\\ |\\ . | | | . | | | . | | Iout . | | . [166k] | . | | . | | . COM---+-----------+-------

The 10:1 asymmetry is a bit on the high side - your spare 30uA would accomodate 5:1 - 80k and 1k4

Bill Sloman, Nijmegen

will it work with .8v of supply voltage overhead?

Bob

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