Profile of a killer: the complex biology powering the coronavirus pandemic

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A survey article appeared in Nature magazine in the 7 May 2020 issue.
This one is open access.

.<https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-01315-7

Profile of a killer: the complex biology powering the coronavirus
pandemic:  Scientists are piecing together how SARS-CoV-2 operates,

remain about the source of COVID-19.

Nature 581, 22-26 (2020)

doi: 10.1038/d41586-020-01315-7

Re: Profile of a killer: the complex biology powering the coronavirus pandemic
On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 4:59:24 PM UTC-4, Joe Gwinn wrote:
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All viruses have complex biology. These people are only making a big deal o
f it because it made pandemic status.

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 of it because it made pandemic status.

It isn't the pandemic status that motivates the interest, but the lethality
.

Covid-19 doesn't always get down into the lungs, but when it does it freque
ntly kills the patient. That's what generates the interest.

As John Larkin keeps on reminding us, new strains of flu achieve pandemic s
tatus every year, but since they only kill the old and frail, nobody pays a
ll that much attention. John Larkin is less tuned in to the fact that Covid
-19 kills lots of people who were relatively healthy before they got infect
ed by Covid-19.

I can't work out quite why John Larkin is blind to this aspect of the disea
se - one hypothesis might be that he doesn't think for himself and merely r
ecycles right-wing propaganda, which is a lot more worried about people not
 working and not earning dividends for their employers than it is about the
 occasional worker dying and having to be replaced by a new hire.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

Re: Profile of a killer: the complex biology powering the coronavirus pandemic
On Saturday, May 23, 2020 at 11:35:38 PM UTC-4, Bill Sloman wrote:
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al of it because it made pandemic status.
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That may be true for the public but not for the scientific community.

The article is typical "content provider" drivel. He doesn't know the subje
ct and therefore was unable to synthesize anything close to resembling a th
esis. He did a lot of start and stopping various lines of thought, soon rea
ched the limits of his comprehension, or miscomprehension as the case may b
e, and terminated them. The article is pointless.

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uently kills the patient. That's what generates the interest.
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 status every year, but since they only kill the old and frail, nobody pays
 all that much attention. John Larkin is less tuned in to the fact that Cov
id-19 kills lots of people who were relatively healthy before they got infe
cted by Covid-19.
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ease - one hypothesis might be that he doesn't think for himself and merely
 recycles right-wing propaganda, which is a lot more worried about people n
ot working and not earning dividends for their employers than it is about t
he occasional worker dying and having to be replaced by a new hire.

Nobody gives a damn about these people when they're living, so why would yo
u expect that to change when they're dead?

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ject and therefore was unable to synthesize anything close to resembling a  
thesis. He did a lot of start and stopping various lines of thought, soon r
eached the limits of his comprehension, or miscomprehension as the case may
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equently kills the patient. That's what generates the interest.
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ic status every year, but since they only kill the old and frail, nobody pa
ys all that much attention. John Larkin is less tuned in to the fact that C
ovid-19 kills lots of people who were relatively healthy before they got in
fected by Covid-19.
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isease - one hypothesis might be that he doesn't think for himself and mere
ly recycles right-wing propaganda, which is a lot more worried about people
 not working and not earning dividends for their employers than it is about
 the occasional worker dying and having to be replaced by a new hire.
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you expect that to change when they're dead?

The people themselves are decidedly interested in their continued survival,
 and if they find themselves being sacrificed by the nobodies who don't giv
e a damn about it, they do have a tendency to kick out that particular bunc
h of nobodies in favour of a new bunch.

Politics is very much the art of the possible, and it's quite possible for  
the ruling class to get kicked out. The Russian ruling class didn't give a  
damn about the quality of the consumer goods the working class to get hold  
of, and we know how that worked out.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

Re: Profile of a killer: the complex biology powering the coronavirus pandemic
On 5/23/2020 3:59 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
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Thanks, Joe. That is a good article.

Re: Profile of a killer: the complex biology powering the coronavirus pandemic
On 2020-05-24 06:58, John S wrote:
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With the caveat that the author is based in Shanghai.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Principal Consultant
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Re: Profile of a killer: the complex biology powering the coronavirus pandemic
On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 11:31:35 PM UTC+10, Phil Hobbs wrote:
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So even something that gets published in Nature becomes suspect if it came  
from Shanghai?

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

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On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 9:31:35 AM UTC-4, Phil Hobbs wrote:
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What the hell does that mean???  

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Re: Profile of a killer: the complex biology powering the coronavirus pandemic
Ricketty C wrote...
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 That the author is better informed than our own
 experts, who've been coming later to the scene.  


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    - Win

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Or that if he publishes certain facts, he would be disappeared.



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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

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Re: Profile of a killer: the complex biology powering the coronavirus pandemic
Shanghai's a fair way from Wuhan, Win.  

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As a prominent foreigner, he's probably reasonably safe. However, if he steps out of line, all the local CCP cadres have to do is disappear one or more of his Chinese friends, and he'd play ball right quick.  

That doesn't take away from the parts of the article more-or-less unrelated to the CCP narrative, but it does constrain the things he can talk about     . Thus the reader does have to keep his powder dry.  

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Re: Profile of a killer: the complex biology powering the coronavirus pandemic

If you want To understand the microbiology and morphism of hCOV-19 follow DrBeen on youtube from India.. He is the best teacher on this subject.

Re: Profile of a killer: the complex biology powering the coronavirus pandemic
On Sun, 24 May 2020 13:03:07 -0700 (PDT), snipped-for-privacy@gmail.com wrote:

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I spent some time in the USSR, and one thing that impressed me is how
much better they treated foreigners than their own citizens. They
treated me like royalty once while a crowd of Russians waited
literally out in the cold rain.

If I wanted any decent groceries, I could buy them in a store that
ordinary Russians weren't allowed to enter. We could walk into the US
embassy compound, but the russian guards would stop any russians that
tried to go in.

Ditto the fancy hotels, with their bars and restaurants. Of course, we
had to fight our way through the crowd of young Soviet ladies to get
to the door.



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John Larkin         Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

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